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I'm Archana Agarwal,

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I'm assistant professor
in the Department of Pathology,

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and also directed the Red Blood
Cell laboratory at the Arup Laboratories.

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And today I'm going to talk about

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the diagnostic approach to anemia.

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In the outline of the talk is,

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I'll talk about the basic
hematological parameters

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and go over some of the parameters
which we use commonly

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in the diagnosis of anemia.

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We'll also talk about the different types
of anemia

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and their clinical manifestations.

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And then focus on the relevant
diagnostic tests

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for different types of anemia.

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The basic hematological laboratory

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test is which we use for the day to day

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diagnosis of anemia
is the complete blood count.

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And we all are aware of complete
blood count.

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But some of the parameters in the CBC
can be confusing.

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And we'll I'll talk a little bit more
about those parameters in detail in my

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next couple of slides.

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CBC includes
mostly the amount of hemoglobin.

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It also talks about the characteristics
of the red blood, says

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the number of red blood cells size,
and the shapes of the red blood cells.

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It also gives us information
about the white blood cells and platelets,

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white blood cells, the, the number

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and the and information
about the platelets help us in broad

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differential diagnosis of anemia
because there are.

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Different,

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types of anemia, which can also

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have, can have impact on the white blood
cells and platelets.

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And we'll go over some of those later
in our,

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presentation.

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We look at some

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sometime we have to look at the visual
smear manually

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when some of the parameters
of the CBC goes

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beyond the established parameters,

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like if we see some atypical
or the, the, the instrument

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flags, some of the parameters
instrument is not enabled.

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It's not able to diagnose
some of the, identify

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some of the cells
or it's like completely confused.

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So we need to look at the peripheral smear
and make other interpretation manually.

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Like if it's if there is, atypical
lymphocytes or if there is a blast,

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then we need to look at it
and come up with a manual differential.

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So talking a little bit more about the CBC
or complete blood count,

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which is one of the most important
parameters in the diagnosis of anemia.

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These are the most common

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parameter
which we see on a day to day basis.

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When we are looking at the CBC.

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There are some other parameters,

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but but most of the time
we don't really use like platelet volume.

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You'll see that, all the time in the CBC.

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But for all practical purposes, 99.9%
of the time

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we don't usually use those parameters
in our diagnostic workup.

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These are the most common parameters
which are used

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hemoglobin, hematocrit
and red blood cell count.

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The first three gives us idea
about the anemia.

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How what is the the the amount of anemia.

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The quantity of anemia.

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It's, if it's a mild anemia, moderate
anemia or severe anemia.

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So we can come up with that based upon
the red blood cell count, hematocrit

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and the hemoglobin MCV, MC, and mCAT.

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See, so McVie basically tells us
about the size of the red blood cell.

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Is the mean cell volume.

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And this is one of the most important

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parameters
in our diagnostic workup of anemia.

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Whether it's a microscopic anemia or a macro Citic anemia or a normal Citic anemia.

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MC, H and MC.

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Actually, these two parameters
also included all the time in the CBC.

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It's not that useful
for our diagnostic workup.

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Most of the time NC H and NC
it c goes along with Ncbi only rarely.

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In some of the red anemia is the mCAT.

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C or NC.

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H would be different from Ncbi
and we'll talk about that later in our,

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presentation.

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Red RW or red cell distribution with it.

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It gives us idea about the range
of the red blood cell size.

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So the if it's normal,
the percentage of red blood

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cell is in the normal
or is in the normal range.

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That means pretty much all the red blood
cells are of the similar size.

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If it's like really high, that tells us

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that some of the red blood cells
are smaller in size, some of them are,

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really larger
in size, and some of them are normal.

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And RTW does help us in

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some of the diagnostic workup
or differential diagnosis of anemia.

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And we will discuss that again,

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as I discussed earlier, white blood
cell and platelet count.

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Although it's not directly related

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to the diagnostic work of of anemia,
but there are some

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it helps us in the differential diagnosis

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of anemia.

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Again, elaborating a little bit

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more on the red blood cell parameters,
how these are measured.

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Hemoglobin is measured directly
as the absorbance of hemoglobin.

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And most of these parameters hemoglobin
RBC count.

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These are measured directly
by the instruments.

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And flow cytometry is one of the common
method, to get these parameters,

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red blood cell count gives us the direct
it measure directly by the impedance.

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Hematocrit means

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basically it's the ratio of that blood
cell to the volume of whole blood.

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And it's a calculated
most of the time is to calculate it.

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But some of the newer instrument
also gives us the hematocrit directly.

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MCV is the mean height of the voltage.

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So MCV is basically it's

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as determined by the histogram
of the red blood cell size.

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And it's it's actually
the mean of the red blood cell size.

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And that cell distribution weight,
which is not included here is is the

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coefficient of variation of the mean,
or size of the red blood cells.

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Mickey and Mickey.

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Although it's given directly
by the newer instrument, it can also

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be calculated based upon the right blood
cell number and the hematocrit.

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As I as I said earlier, also,
Mickey and Mickey most of the time tag

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along with the parameters tag along
with the Ncbi and it's not really useful.

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A whole lot in like individually
if you're looking at MSI and Mickey,

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see only rarely the use like Mickey

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or see it as like, individual parameter
for the diagnostic workup.

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Definition of anemia.

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So anemia comes from the Greek word
and it means without blood.

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It's it's some manifestation.

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It's not a disease of numerous causes.

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And they're like I mean they're like more
than 20 different causes of anemia.

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It's it's basically a physiological
manifestation of a disease,

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underlying disease.

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It's it's
the condition, their capacity of the blood

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to transport oxygen to tissues is reduced
because of the underlying condition.

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And it's defined by decreased hemoglobin,
RBC count and hematocrit

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and all these three parameters,
which are the first three.

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Most of the time,
the first three parameters in the CBC,

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we use all these three parameters
in our definition of anemia.

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Sometimes you'll see
that, only RBC count is decreased.

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Sometimes hematocrit only might be
decreased like as an individual parameter.

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And it's like if it's one of these
three parameters are decreased.

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We would just call it like a borderline
anemia.

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If we need at least
for our practical purposes,

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we need at least two different parameters
to go down to call it anemia.

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If it's like only one decrease
in hemoglobin,

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then we'll just call it
maybe borderline anemia.

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We need at least two different parameters.

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In most

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of the time, if it's like a clear cut
case of anemia,

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all these three parameters
would be like out of range

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treatment or the anemia depends
on discovering the underlying cause.

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That's the most important, way of treat
anemia to, to basically determine

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what's the underlying cause
and then treat that.

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So evaluating anemia in the lab

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we need basic information
size of the red blood cells.

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Whether it's small, normal or big.

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And that's determined by MCV
mean cell volume.

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We need to look at the microscope
see if there are any atypical cells

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like sickle cell is one of the common

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example, if we are seeing sickle cells,
that means the patient has sickle

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cell anemia.

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Also, we need to look at the platelets
and the leukocytes

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because as I mentioned earlier,
there are a lot of different,

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causes of anemia
that not only includes red blood cells,

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but also includes
white blood cells and platelets.

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And that basically leads to pan cytokine,
not only anemia,

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but cytokine means decrease
in all three parameters

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anemia, as well as decrease
in leukocytes and platelets.

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That site count is it gives us idea

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about the ability of the bone marrow
to respond to anemia.

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And this is again we'll talk we'll discuss
that in little bit more detail

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when we'll talk about the causes
of normal septic anemia.

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As this becomes really important to know
how the bone marrow is functioning.

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If the bone marrow is involved
in certain diseases, like there's

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a cancer involving the bone marrow,
or if some disease like,

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myelodysplastic syndrome or some other,

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leukemia or something
which is involved in the bone marrow, then

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one bone marrow would not be functioning
to recover or respond to the anemia.

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So that gives us an idea about the bone
marrow, its capacity to respond to anemia.

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The reticular site count.

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So ridiculous type is basically a
precursor of red blood cells.

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So reticular

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side count and it's it's in the red
in the peripheral blood circulation.

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It remains only for like 24 hours.

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And then it develops into a mature
red blood cell.

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So if it's if the number of reticular
strike is really high

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in the peripheral circulation,

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it means that the bone marrow
is really functioning

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to respond to the anemia
and turning out a lot of these immature

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red blood cells
into the peripheral circulation.

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So that really helps us in basically

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defining whether the bone marrow
is functioning or not.

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And that that is really important for our

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not only for our diagnostic purposes,
but also for the treatment purposes.

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Later on,
if the bone marrow is not functioning,

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then it becomes very difficult
for a treating physician

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to treat that anemia, because that might

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that might need the treatment,
to get rid of either leukemia

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or cancer from the bone marrow or bone
marrow transplant, things like that.

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But if the bone marrow is functioning,
fine, then if we treat

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the peripheral cause of anemia
and the patients should be fine.

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So ridiculous, I count is one of the
really important parameter

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in basically,

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determining the cause of anemia.

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And then there are a lot of other,
evidence of destruction of red blood cells

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like elevated lactic dehydrogenase
and the bilirubin,

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which is the breakdown product
of red blood cell.

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So these basically gives us an idea

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about what's going on
with the red blood cells.

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If if the red blood cells
are getting destroyed, which is like

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which is the hemolytic anemia.

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And that's one of the most common
cause for normal Citic anemia.

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We'll talk about that again.

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In our later, discussion.

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So these are the common parameters
we need to start

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when we are basically
working up our anemia.

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What's the size of the red blood cells?

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What does it look like
under the microscope?

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What's the other, parameters doing?

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How the bone marrow is functioning.

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And if the, if there is a peripheral
destruction of the red blood cell.

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So a practical
approach where we start the first

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and the most important thing
is to know the size of the red blood cell.

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And we cannot really I mean,
we can try to look at under the microscope

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and try to guess, like,
estimate the size of the red blood cell.

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So most of the time, what happens,

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like, as a human pathologist, the,

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we are trained to basically estimate
the size of the red blood cell.

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So it's usually equal,
like it should be somewhat

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the size of the nucleus of a neutrophil.

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And if it's smaller than that,
then we call it a micro setting.

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But it's just an estimate.

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It's a very, very subjective

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parameter.

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We for all practical purposes,
we do not rely on our basically eyes

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or a microscope to determine the size
of the red blood cell.

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It can give us some idea,
but that's about it.

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We rely on we rely on the instrument.

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The main cell volume or the Ncbi
to to know the size of the red blood cell.

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The normal reference range

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and the reference range varies
from the laboratory to laboratory.

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And but most of the time
it it's like anywhere

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from 80 to 90 8 or 100.

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So the estimate will be around 80 to 100.

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But it can vary anywhere from
78 to 90 5 or 98, something like that.

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Any time
the MCV is lower than the reference range

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established by the laboratory,
we call it a micro Citic anemia.

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So that means the size of the red blood
cell, small and micro means small.

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So that means the size of the red blood
cells are smaller.

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And if it's more than 100
we call it a macro Citic anemia.

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That means the red blood
cells are much larger in size.

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This is the basic, basic
definition of the the anemia diagnosis.

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Based upon the size of the red blood cell.

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So if it's a micro Citic anemia,
the most common causes of micro

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or smaller size of the red blood cells

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are these three iron deficiency

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anemia, chronic disease and Palestinians.

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These are also the common

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not so common,
although these are the established causes

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of like anemia
and hereditary status psychosis.

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We do see that quite often.

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We'll talk about that.

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But, head

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to X-linked syndrome,
plastic anemia and lead poisoning.

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These are rare.

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But these all three,
six of them come under the common

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differential diagnosis or the differential
diagnosis of micro anemia.

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The most common would be iron
deficiency anemia.

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And we'll talk about that
in a little bit detail.

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Iron deficiency anemia and thalassemia.

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Anemia of chronic disease
is also a common cause of anemia.

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But again
anemia of chronic disease encompasses

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so many different causes of anemia.

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Underlying like, diseases.

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So it kind of becomes sometimes

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it becomes a little bit difficult
to diagnose an image of chronic disease

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because it can also manifest
as normal cystic anemia.

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So for practical purposes,
if we are seeing a case

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of micro Citic anemia,
the most common differential

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which should come to anyone's
mind is iron deficiency anemia.

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And thalassemia is two

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especially based upon the ethnicity
of the population.

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Thalassemia has also become
one of the common differential diagnosis.

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And we'll talk about the ethnicity
part later on.

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So the first first thing first,
iron deficiency

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anemia is the most common cause of anemia.

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Microsatellite anemia or anemia worldwide.

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It's it's

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most commonly it happens due to bleeding.

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But, it can also happen in some of the,

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underdeveloped countries.

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It happens due to nutritional deficiency
and is also the commonest

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cause of anemia worldwide
because of the nutritional deficiency.

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But in the United States, most of the time

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it's due to bleeding, mostly
in the elderly population.

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Either is GI, gastrointestinal bleeding
or bleeding due to some other cause,

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or cancer related colon cancer is one of
the common cause leading to bleeding.

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Colon cancer causing bleeding

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and then developing into iron deficiency
anemia again in females.

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Because of the menstrual cycle, bleeding

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is, bleeding can lead to anemia
all the time.

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Females

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having cervical cancer
or endometrial cancer.

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These can also lead to bleeding
and cause extensive anemia.

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So any cause bleeding in the United States
is the most common

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cause of iron deficiency anemia.

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Iron.

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Some of the iron, in fact

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body iron, 80% of the functional

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iron is seen in the form of hemoglobin
myoglobin,

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which is in the muscle and cytochrome c,
which is commonly seen in the.

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Some of the enzymes.

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About 20% of the iron is seen

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in the storage form,
so 80% of the functional

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iron, is basically
gets circulated on a daily basis.

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And then about 20% it's
which is in the storage form,

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it's only used
when there is iron deficiency or a sudden

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need of more iron
because of the severe bleeding or,

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like sudden like,

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some other reason we,

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called,
which leads to bleeding and cause, severe

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iron deficiency anemia,
like accident or something.

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Iron.

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It's absorbed in the small intestine.

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Duodenum is the most, 90% of

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the iron would be absorbed
from the duodenum.

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Transferrin is the transporter

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iron transporter in the peripheral blood
in which

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40 of the iron in the circulation
would be bound to transferrin.

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So transferrin saturation in a normal
iron, if the patient is not iron

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deprived, has a normal percentage of iron
in the peripheral blood circulation

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it would be transferring,
would bind to the iron.

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Felting is the storage form of iron
which is seen inside the bone

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marrow or, macrophages, spleen or liver.

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So any places where iron is stored,

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it's stored in the form of sedative hemo.

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It is derived from the fat in
and it's the long term storage of that.

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And it's seen most commonly in the,

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kidney, renal tubules.

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So if we are trying to

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establish a diagnosis of iron deficiency
anemia,

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the common parameters would be

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serum iron.

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So I didn't studies.

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Low serum iron basically

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defines iron deficiency anemia.

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But low serum iron,

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can also be seen in anemia,
chronic disorder,

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which is also one of the commonest,

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cause of micro anemia.

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So if we see,

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a patient or on a, a patient with iron,

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low serum iron, the the most common
differential which should come to anyone's

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mind is iron deficiency
anemia and anemia of chronic disorder.

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However, based on some other parameter,
we can,

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narrow down our differential

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in iron deficiency anemia.

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All pretty much
all the cases of iron deficiency

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anemia should have low 13,
which is the storage form of iron

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and one of the most important parameter

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to diagnose iron deficiency anemia.

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So 13 as I described in

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the previous
slide, is the storage form of iron.

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So if there is an iron deficiency anemia,

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if storage form of iron also goes down

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so low, if, if a patient has a low serum
iron and low ferritin,

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that means the patient has identified
anemia

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in anemia of chronic disorder,
we can see low serum iron.

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But pretty much all of the iron,
even though set of iron is low in that

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in those patients the storage form of iron

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is usually either normal
or in the high range.

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So if we see high fat I'm sorry, ferritin

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or normal ferritin, it could be

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anemia of chronic disorder
but low it in for all practical purposes

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is diagnostic of iron deficiency anemia.

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High total serum iron

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binding capacity, also known as IBC. It.

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It basically gives us an idea
about the transferrin

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saturation or transferrin concentration.

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So if there is a low serum iron,

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the binding capacity of the transferrin
is much higher.

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So in cases of iron deficiency anemia,
the iron

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binding capacity of the transferrin
is much higher.

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So in combination of all these parameters,
it's usually possible

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to distinguish between iron
deficiency anemia and thalassemia.

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Sorry, anemia of chronic disorder.

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Most of the time 95 or 9798% of the time.

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All these serum markers would be helpful.

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Once in a while it becomes,

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important,
or it's required to do a bone marrow.

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It's an invasive procedure, invasive
invasive procedure.

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It it needs local anesthetic
and also is a painful procedure.

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So most of the time physicians
would try to avoid doing a bone marrow

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just for the diagnosis of iron
deficiency anemia, unless they all

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these parameters are failed
or there are conditions that there could

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be an overlap of iron deficiency
anemia and an email chronic disorder.

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So a patient could have like,
a chronic disease like rheumatoid

00:24:14.202 --> 00:24:17.330
arthritis and could also have iron
deficiency anemia.

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So in those patients there

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there are two or different other factors
compounding a diagnosis.

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It becomes once in a while it's

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necessary to do a bone marrow
to determine the cause.

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And for in the bone
marrow, in iron deficiency anemia,

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the bone
marrow stories, iron should be decreased.

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So bone marrow stores iron decreased bone
marrow stories iron is the gold

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standard for the diagnosis of iron
deficiency anemia.

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That's basically if there is a decrease
in bone marrow status, iron

00:24:51.490 --> 00:24:55.243
that's diagnostic of foreign deficiency
anemia in all the other

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differential diagnosis like thalassemia

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or an email of chronic disorders either
bone marrow iron is normal or increase.

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So that's like one of the gold
standard for that since the anemia.

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But most of the time
it's not 95 or 97% of the time

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it's not really required
to develop bone marrow.

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The other set of markers would be helpful
to distinguish between those,

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differential diagnosis.

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So one of the other common

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differential
for micro static anemia is thalassemia

00:25:33.198 --> 00:25:34.866
in in

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United States in the last 5 or 10 years,
because of the migration, it's becoming

00:25:40.288 --> 00:25:44.125
quite common to see cases of thalassemia,

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especially in, like recent immigrant.

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It's Southeast Asian,

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population, Mediterranean population.

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So thalassemia, as are commonly seen in

00:25:57.180 --> 00:26:00.559
certain ethnic populations, it's
becoming more and more common.

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And we should always remember
to keep that in our differential.

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If we are seeing a case of microscopic
hypertrophic anemia

00:26:09.067 --> 00:26:11.945
and people fail to realize that,

00:26:11.945 --> 00:26:15.699
because we always think that Latinas
are not common in United States,

00:26:15.699 --> 00:26:20.620
but we see we are seeing a lot of cases
with thalassemia, especially in migrant

00:26:20.662 --> 00:26:22.247
recently migrant population.

00:26:22.247 --> 00:26:25.333
So it should always
we should always remember that

00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:29.170
like Pacific hypo chromic chromic
anemia is not only caused by

00:26:29.379 --> 00:26:33.466
iron deficiency anemia or an email
chronic disorder thalassemia

00:26:33.466 --> 00:26:37.304
that becoming really, really common
in this part of the world too.

00:26:38.388 --> 00:26:40.390
So what is thalassemia?

00:26:40.390 --> 00:26:43.393
Hemoglobin,
as we might remember, is a tension

00:26:43.685 --> 00:26:47.647
with two alpha globin,
two alpha chains, and two beta chains.

00:26:48.315 --> 00:26:52.319
So thalassemia happen
when there is imbalance

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.322
between these alpha and beta chains.

00:26:56.531 --> 00:26:59.075
So there are two different kinds
of thalassemia

00:26:59.075 --> 00:27:02.078
alpha and beta thalassemia.

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And based upon the production
of alpha chains or beta chains.

00:27:06.541 --> 00:27:11.379
Because both these chains are required,
it's a type trauma to form hemoglobin.

00:27:11.713 --> 00:27:15.634
So if there is a decrease
in let's see alpha chain,

00:27:16.134 --> 00:27:20.138
then the beta chains is in relative axis.

00:27:20.138 --> 00:27:23.266
And it doesn't have enough
alpha chain to bind to.

00:27:23.266 --> 00:27:26.102
So always alpha bind to beta.

00:27:26.102 --> 00:27:29.105
And if there is free

00:27:29.564 --> 00:27:32.776
beta they don't have anything to bind to.

00:27:32.859 --> 00:27:35.904
The free circulating beta
or free circulating

00:27:35.904 --> 00:27:39.366
alpha is much more toxic
to the red blood cell.

00:27:39.824 --> 00:27:42.702
So that's why
if there is a relative access

00:27:42.702 --> 00:27:45.747
of any of these alpha beta, the first,

00:27:45.914 --> 00:27:48.833
the relative axis of the other one

00:27:48.833 --> 00:27:52.253
is basically freely circulating
in the, blood.

00:27:52.545 --> 00:27:56.383
And it causes it binds to the red blood
cell membrane and causes

00:27:56.383 --> 00:27:59.928
hemolytic anemia or basically breaks down
the red blood cells.

00:28:00.637 --> 00:28:04.516
So it's thalassemia is a quantitative,
problem.

00:28:04.516 --> 00:28:10.146
It's, it's it's due to low production
of either alpha or beta globin chains.

00:28:10.772 --> 00:28:14.359
And it's same for the chain
which is decreased or absent.

00:28:14.567 --> 00:28:19.614
So alpha thalassemia is defined
by decreased alpha or absent alpha

00:28:20.198 --> 00:28:25.203
and beta thalassemia
are defined by decreased or option beta.

00:28:26.037 --> 00:28:29.457
There are two different are signs
which we always see

00:28:29.457 --> 00:28:32.711
in the thalassemia diagnosis beta plus

00:28:33.336 --> 00:28:36.339
or beta zero or alpha plus or alpha zero

00:28:36.756 --> 00:28:41.302
plus means there is some production
of that particular chain.

00:28:42.220 --> 00:28:46.933
It could be either 5% or it could be 45%.

00:28:47.225 --> 00:28:50.895
So there is a reduction in the production,
but still there

00:28:50.895 --> 00:28:52.522
is some production going on.

00:28:53.773 --> 00:28:55.567
Like if it's

00:28:55.567 --> 00:28:57.819
it's beta plus means

00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:01.364
there is a decrease
in the production of beta chain,

00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:07.120
but if we unless we know
the genetic, etiology behind the beta

00:29:07.120 --> 00:29:10.540
plus thalassemia, it's hard
to predict the phenotype.

00:29:10.874 --> 00:29:15.044
So beta plus could mean
that there is a reduction of 10%.

00:29:15.044 --> 00:29:18.673
Or it could also mean
that there could be a reduction of 40%.

00:29:18.965 --> 00:29:23.678
So there's a lot of genetic heterogeneity
behind the beta plus.

00:29:23.678 --> 00:29:25.513
But it basically simply means

00:29:25.513 --> 00:29:29.100
that there is a reduction
in the production of that particular gene.

00:29:29.809 --> 00:29:34.481
Zero indicates
complete absence of production.

00:29:34.481 --> 00:29:37.609
So if it's a beta zero,
that means that beta

00:29:39.194 --> 00:29:41.362
alli is basically not functioning

00:29:41.362 --> 00:29:44.365
and not producing any beta chain.

00:29:44.616 --> 00:29:48.077
So that's the basic definition
of thalassemia plus.

00:29:48.077 --> 00:29:50.538
And B plus and zero

00:29:51.623 --> 00:29:53.583
demographics, as I said earlier.

00:29:53.583 --> 00:29:56.836
Also it's very very important
for the thalassemia diagnosis.

00:29:58.421 --> 00:30:01.424
It's very prevalent
in certain part of the world

00:30:02.133 --> 00:30:05.220
most frequently seen
in the Mediterranean population

00:30:05.220 --> 00:30:09.265
African, Western and Southeast
Asia, India and Burma.

00:30:09.641 --> 00:30:12.268
One of the interesting point about

00:30:12.268 --> 00:30:15.271
thalassemia is its distribution

00:30:15.647 --> 00:30:18.650
to, Palace,
that of the Plasmodium falciparum.

00:30:19.943 --> 00:30:22.946
Most of the time thalassemia,

00:30:23.112 --> 00:30:24.823
sickle cell anemia, sickle cell

00:30:24.823 --> 00:30:29.828
trait d6, PD, glucose six
phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency,

00:30:29.828 --> 00:30:32.831
which we'll talk later in in this talk

00:30:32.831 --> 00:30:35.834
these all these

00:30:35.917 --> 00:30:37.669
again has

00:30:37.669 --> 00:30:41.172
the distribution parallels
that of the Plasmodium falciparum.

00:30:42.298 --> 00:30:46.719
And the theory is the patients
with thalassemia trait or sickle cell

00:30:46.719 --> 00:30:49.764
trait the size of the red blood
cells are smaller

00:30:49.764 --> 00:30:53.726
or atypical
or abnormal in these particular traits

00:30:54.310 --> 00:30:58.898
show the Plasmodium falciparum
or the or the malaria.

00:30:59.232 --> 00:31:00.733
The bad form of the malaria.

00:31:02.527 --> 00:31:03.444
They could not

00:31:03.444 --> 00:31:07.198
survive that well compared to the normal
red blood cells.

00:31:07.574 --> 00:31:11.369
So that's why these patients
who have had some kind

00:31:11.369 --> 00:31:14.497
of a thalassemia trait
or sickle cell trait,

00:31:14.789 --> 00:31:19.544
they have been selected out
over like 10,000 years.

00:31:19.794 --> 00:31:22.797
So this population has had basically,

00:31:25.300 --> 00:31:27.719
genetic advantage over

00:31:27.719 --> 00:31:31.389
other population which didn't
have these traits like thalassemia trait.

00:31:31.764 --> 00:31:36.728
So as I said, these patients who had not,
micro cystic anemia in thalassemia

00:31:36.978 --> 00:31:41.858
or sickle cell trait that the red blood
cells had cycling, cycles.

00:31:42.066 --> 00:31:45.612
So the Plasmodium falciparum
or the malaria

00:31:46.029 --> 00:31:49.032
malarial, parasite could not survive that.

00:31:49.032 --> 00:31:52.118
Well, so that's
why these patients have been selected out,

00:31:52.118 --> 00:31:55.121
because these patients
could basically sustain this,

00:31:55.622 --> 00:31:58.625
malarial parasite
much better than the normal cells.

00:31:58.917 --> 00:32:02.587
So it's very common
to see the distribution goes

00:32:02.587 --> 00:32:05.590
very well
along with the malarial parasite.

00:32:08.927 --> 00:32:10.178
So distinguishing

00:32:10.178 --> 00:32:13.181
feature between iron deficiency
and thalassemia.

00:32:14.349 --> 00:32:17.602
As I said earlier,
the common differential diagnosis

00:32:17.602 --> 00:32:22.148
for anemia is iron deficiency anemia.

00:32:22.148 --> 00:32:23.232
And thalassemia.

00:32:23.232 --> 00:32:26.653
And also any male chronic disorder
which we just talked about.

00:32:28.321 --> 00:32:32.617
But iron deficiency and thalassemia,
there are a lot of parameters

00:32:32.617 --> 00:32:36.621
which can be similar when we
when we look at the CBC,

00:32:37.330 --> 00:32:39.666
however, certain parameters

00:32:39.666 --> 00:32:42.669
can be helpful
in the differential diagnosis.

00:32:44.504 --> 00:32:48.091
In in the, iron deficiency anemia,

00:32:49.133 --> 00:32:51.886
the red blood cell count

00:32:51.886 --> 00:32:57.225
is usually less than 5 or 10 to power
six microliter.

00:32:57.225 --> 00:33:01.187
So usually in cases of iron deficiency
anemia,

00:33:01.521 --> 00:33:06.150
it's number of red blood cells
because it's a nutritional cause of,

00:33:06.734 --> 00:33:10.530
anemia,
the number of red blood cells are usually

00:33:10.530 --> 00:33:13.950
either normal
or in the lower range of normal.

00:33:14.534 --> 00:33:15.284
However,

00:33:16.703 --> 00:33:17.078
the red

00:33:17.078 --> 00:33:23.626
blood cell count in color seems more than
or in the higher range of normal.

00:33:23.835 --> 00:33:26.796
If you look at the reference
range in the CBC,

00:33:28.172 --> 00:33:31.050
that's like one of the

00:33:31.050 --> 00:33:33.553
one of the common or important parameters.

00:33:33.553 --> 00:33:38.641
And when we try to distinguish
between iron deficiency and thalassemia,

00:33:39.517 --> 00:33:43.187
because the MCB can be very similar,
between

00:33:43.187 --> 00:33:47.442
both of these, the mean cell volume
sometimes can have a lot of overlap.

00:33:47.859 --> 00:33:50.611
However, in thalassemia is usually

00:33:50.611 --> 00:33:53.614
the MCV is less than 70.

00:33:54.073 --> 00:33:57.076
In iron deficiency anemia, it's usually

00:33:57.118 --> 00:34:01.914
either more than 70
or in kind of in the lower range of normal

00:34:02.665 --> 00:34:05.710
red cell distribution with or RTW.

00:34:06.711 --> 00:34:09.714
In iron, deficiency anemia is usually

00:34:10.715 --> 00:34:12.759
more than the normal reference range

00:34:12.759 --> 00:34:16.554
or in the higher range of normal
in the thalassemia.

00:34:16.554 --> 00:34:21.642
Because it's a genetic disorder, there's
nothing to do with the nutrition here.

00:34:21.642 --> 00:34:24.645
It's a genetically acquired disorder.

00:34:24.687 --> 00:34:29.317
So once the red blood cell or the DNA has

00:34:29.317 --> 00:34:32.320
the mutations is going to remain forever.

00:34:32.737 --> 00:34:37.992
So the size of the red blood cells
basically remains of the same size

00:34:37.992 --> 00:34:39.035
all the time.

00:34:39.035 --> 00:34:44.874
So the red cell distribution, which
basically which tells us about the range

00:34:44.874 --> 00:34:50.922
of the size of the red blood cell
is usually normal in cases of thalassemia.

00:34:52.215 --> 00:34:52.840
So if

00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:56.385
we if
we can remember these three parameters

00:34:56.677 --> 00:35:00.014
when we are looking at the CBC,
I would say

00:35:00.640 --> 00:35:04.018
more than in 90 to 95% of the cases,

00:35:04.018 --> 00:35:08.022
we should be able to make a good estimate

00:35:08.022 --> 00:35:11.025
about iron deficiency versus thalassemia.

00:35:11.317 --> 00:35:15.822
Most of the time when we are looking
at the iron deficiency anemia,

00:35:15.822 --> 00:35:18.950
I would see a red blood cell in the lower

00:35:18.950 --> 00:35:21.953
range of normal or less than normal

00:35:22.495 --> 00:35:26.165
MCB, around 75 or 76,

00:35:26.707 --> 00:35:31.087
and red or blue in the range of 17
or 18 or something like that.

00:35:31.838 --> 00:35:34.966
In thalassemia, however, it's not uncommon

00:35:34.966 --> 00:35:37.969
to see a red blood cell of either

00:35:38.678 --> 00:35:41.681
normal or higher range of normal

00:35:41.681 --> 00:35:44.684
and MCB of 65 or 60.

00:35:45.226 --> 00:35:48.271
So these three parameters in my day to day

00:35:48.271 --> 00:35:52.567
practice is really, really helpful
in making a diff.

00:35:52.567 --> 00:35:55.987
Coming up with a differential
between iron deficiency and thalassemia,

00:35:56.279 --> 00:36:00.324
there could be some overlap
in about maybe around 5% of the cases,

00:36:00.700 --> 00:36:04.871
but majority of the time
I would say we can make a good estimate.

00:36:04.871 --> 00:36:07.874
A good guess about what kind of anemia is

00:36:09.667 --> 00:36:12.670
some of the pediatric hematologist?

00:36:14.255 --> 00:36:17.675
Most of the time pediatric
pediatric hematologist or the

00:36:18.176 --> 00:36:20.803
or the hematologist were basically

00:36:20.803 --> 00:36:23.806
taking care of the kid with a plasma.

00:36:24.432 --> 00:36:28.936
They usually use
some of the parameters of the index,

00:36:29.061 --> 00:36:32.064
basically to come up with the differential

00:36:32.190 --> 00:36:34.901
between iron deficiency and thalassemia.

00:36:34.901 --> 00:36:37.904
So it basically it means that,

00:36:39.363 --> 00:36:41.032
indexes were one of the common

00:36:41.032 --> 00:36:44.744
commonly used index
in the pediatric world.

00:36:45.328 --> 00:36:48.706
And if the the ratio between MCV

00:36:49.081 --> 00:36:53.753
and red blood cell count is less than 13,
it favors color.

00:36:53.753 --> 00:36:56.214
Female

00:36:56.214 --> 00:37:00.509
for practical purposes
for like day to day practice,

00:37:00.509 --> 00:37:04.889
I really don't use this index or determine
the ratio.

00:37:05.097 --> 00:37:09.727
Basically, this ratio is telling me
that in cases of thalassemia,

00:37:09.977 --> 00:37:13.272
the red blood cell is either normal

00:37:13.272 --> 00:37:18.236
or in the higher range of normal, and MTV
is like in the lower range of normal

00:37:18.611 --> 00:37:21.489
or much lower compared to the red cell.

00:37:21.489 --> 00:37:26.160
So most of the time it's not
really required to go and make that ratio.

00:37:26.369 --> 00:37:30.248
If we carefully look at the three
parameters, as I mentioned earlier,

00:37:30.581 --> 00:37:33.584
RBC, MCV and the RW,

00:37:33.751 --> 00:37:37.338
we should be able to make, good calculated
Argus.

00:37:37.755 --> 00:37:42.468
But, these are some of the
commonly used index, which

00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.264
we might encountered in our,

00:37:46.264 --> 00:37:49.267
differential diagnosis.

00:37:50.184 --> 00:37:52.186
Anemia of chronic disease.

00:37:52.186 --> 00:37:56.899
This is also, as I mentioned earlier,
it's like one of the differential.

00:37:56.899 --> 00:38:00.820
And in the, microsatellite hyper
chromic anemia,

00:38:02.571 --> 00:38:06.826
it can cause mild to moderate
anemia due to increased side in.

00:38:06.826 --> 00:38:11.580
And I'm not going to go over in detail
about the side in which is like the iron,

00:38:12.206 --> 00:38:18.212
the molecule for the iron transport
and a lot of research going on.

00:38:18.212 --> 00:38:21.215
And basically determining,

00:38:21.465 --> 00:38:25.261
the utility and the mechanism

00:38:26.053 --> 00:38:29.265
why iron is absorbed much

00:38:29.765 --> 00:38:32.852
in higher quantity
in anemia of chronic disorders,

00:38:32.852 --> 00:38:36.689
like in chronic infections, college
and vascular disease and malignancy.

00:38:37.023 --> 00:38:39.817
People are still researchers
are still trying

00:38:39.817 --> 00:38:44.530
to understand why that happens,
why in these chronic immune

00:38:44.947 --> 00:38:51.329
mediated diseases,
we have higher, uptake or storage of iron.

00:38:52.121 --> 00:38:54.665
So what happens in
this, as I mentioned earlier,

00:38:55.833 --> 00:38:58.836
the storage form of iron is really high.

00:38:58.919 --> 00:39:02.214
But we cannot really utilize that iron.

00:39:02.214 --> 00:39:06.469
So the body has lot of iron
in the stored form like in macrophages.

00:39:06.927 --> 00:39:10.056
So we look at the bone marrow or spleen.

00:39:10.514 --> 00:39:13.017
We'll see a lot of stored form of iron.

00:39:13.017 --> 00:39:19.065
But for some reason the, the, the the,
the physiology of the iron is messed up

00:39:19.065 --> 00:39:23.903
so much that we cannot really utilize
that stored form of iron.

00:39:24.445 --> 00:39:28.199
So if we look at the serum, serum iron
or the peripheral iron,

00:39:29.533 --> 00:39:32.620
in the blood, that is usually decreased.

00:39:32.620 --> 00:39:34.622
So that's why anemia of chronic disease

00:39:34.622 --> 00:39:38.250
come under under the differential of iron
deficiency anemia.

00:39:38.459 --> 00:39:43.047
Because you we will see decreased serum
iron in both these conditions

00:39:43.297 --> 00:39:47.468
in iron deficiency anemia
and as well as in anemia chronic disease.

00:39:47.676 --> 00:39:50.179
So the serum iron is decreased.

00:39:50.179 --> 00:39:55.184
But the storage form of iron
for some mechanism is increased.

00:39:55.184 --> 00:39:56.685
And we are still the researchers

00:39:56.685 --> 00:40:01.107
and researchers are still trying
to understand why that happens.

00:40:01.315 --> 00:40:06.320
And when one of the key molecules
is the side in which is the most important

00:40:06.570 --> 00:40:11.409
molecule to basically observe

00:40:11.409 --> 00:40:15.204
iron from the, duodenum
or the small intestine.

00:40:15.454 --> 00:40:20.334
So the website, it plays a very key
important role in the iron absorption.

00:40:20.626 --> 00:40:23.629
And, that's why the,

00:40:23.796 --> 00:40:26.632
in cases of anemia, of chronic disease,

00:40:26.632 --> 00:40:30.010
we see increased storage form of iron.

00:40:30.010 --> 00:40:34.974
But the entire pathophysiology and
the mechanism is still kind of obscure.

00:40:34.974 --> 00:40:38.978
And I do suggest that researchers
are still trying to understand that.

00:40:40.896 --> 00:40:43.899
So that was about my prosthetic anemia.

00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.403
I hope I gave you,

00:40:47.820 --> 00:40:49.363
the common parameters

00:40:49.363 --> 00:40:54.702
and the common, diagnostic features,
which can help us in

00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.122
coming up with a differential of micro
Citic anemia.

00:40:58.873 --> 00:41:02.793
So let's talk about macro Citic anemia,
which basically

00:41:02.793 --> 00:41:06.714
means the size of the red blood
cells are much bigger.

00:41:06.714 --> 00:41:10.050
So our reference range is about 80 to 100.

00:41:10.426 --> 00:41:14.388
Here in macro Citic
anemia is usually more than 100.

00:41:16.265 --> 00:41:20.686
And the pathophysiology behind macro Citic
anemia is

00:41:21.103 --> 00:41:26.317
that there is a problem in the DNA
synthesis in the red blood cell.

00:41:26.984 --> 00:41:30.988
And the most common cause of macro Citic

00:41:31.030 --> 00:41:34.033
anemia is vitamin B12 deficiency

00:41:34.366 --> 00:41:37.369
and folate deficiency.

00:41:37.411 --> 00:41:39.580
Both of these folate and cobalt

00:41:39.580 --> 00:41:43.417
or vitamin
B12 are required for the DNA synthesis.

00:41:43.751 --> 00:41:49.340
So that's why if there is a deficiency
of any of these folate or vitamin B12,

00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:53.260
it basically causes problems
with the DNA synthesis.

00:41:54.011 --> 00:41:56.889
So as we might recall,

00:41:56.889 --> 00:42:00.684
DNA synthesis
not only happens in the red blood cell.

00:42:00.684 --> 00:42:04.939
Precursor is not really only important
for red blood cell precursors.

00:42:05.439 --> 00:42:09.860
It's all it's important
for all the, cells of the human body.

00:42:10.236 --> 00:42:14.990
So in cases of macro Citic anemia,
not only red

00:42:14.990 --> 00:42:18.994
blood cells or its precursors
means like immature red blood cells

00:42:19.870 --> 00:42:23.582
which have DNA, nucleus
and have DNA are affected.

00:42:24.166 --> 00:42:27.044
But also the leukocytes,

00:42:27.044 --> 00:42:31.715
the WBC and platelets are also affected.

00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:36.220
So that's why it's in cases of macro
Citic anemia.

00:42:36.512 --> 00:42:39.515
All these three parameters are affected.

00:42:39.515 --> 00:42:45.354
So not only we see anemia, we also see
a decrease in WBC and decrease in places.

00:42:45.854 --> 00:42:49.066
So decrease in WBC is known as leukemia.

00:42:49.358 --> 00:42:53.195
And decrease in platelets
is known as thrombocytopenia.

00:42:53.195 --> 00:42:54.572
So we see basically

00:42:54.572 --> 00:42:58.867
and if all these three parameters
are affected it's known as pan cytokine.

00:42:58.867 --> 00:42:59.118
Yeah.

00:43:00.578 --> 00:43:03.038
So it's not uncommon to see

00:43:03.038 --> 00:43:06.625
all these three parameters affected
in both these conditions.

00:43:07.459 --> 00:43:10.546
Deficiency results in megalo blast anemia.

00:43:10.546 --> 00:43:15.301
So megalo means really
big and plastic means immature cells.

00:43:15.676 --> 00:43:19.805
So it leads to because of the problem
with the DNA synthesis,

00:43:20.139 --> 00:43:24.310
it leads to the cells
become much larger in size.

00:43:25.060 --> 00:43:30.608
And since the DNA is not really, forming
that well,

00:43:30.983 --> 00:43:34.612
the nucleus of the red blood cells remain
very immature.

00:43:34.612 --> 00:43:36.113
They do not mature.

00:43:36.113 --> 00:43:40.367
So that's that's what basically
the definition of megalo aplastic

00:43:40.367 --> 00:43:44.663
anemia is due to the impaired
DNA replication

00:43:45.164 --> 00:43:50.085
leads to impaired nuclear development
because DNA obviously is not formed.

00:43:50.419 --> 00:43:54.423
So the DNA of the nucleus
would remain very immature.

00:43:54.757 --> 00:43:57.760
However the cytoplasm of the cell
would be mature.

00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:02.514
So that's what it means
by nuclear cytoplasmic asynchrony.

00:44:02.765 --> 00:44:07.853
So that means the nucleus
is basically lagging behind in maturation.

00:44:08.145 --> 00:44:10.522
The cytoplasm is really matured well.

00:44:10.522 --> 00:44:13.067
But the nuclei is kind of immature.

00:44:13.067 --> 00:44:15.402
And it's very commonly seen in

00:44:16.570 --> 00:44:18.447
Mikala plastic anemia or in

00:44:18.447 --> 00:44:21.533
anemia due to folate or vitamin
B12 deficiency.

00:44:22.993 --> 00:44:27.289
Because the DNA is not really functioning
that well, the size of the red blood

00:44:27.289 --> 00:44:32.628
cell culture, also known as progenitors,
marrow progenitors, are much larger

00:44:32.628 --> 00:44:35.798
compared to the normal, red blood cell
because it

00:44:37.508 --> 00:44:41.345
the features, the clinical features
or the clinical manifestations

00:44:41.345 --> 00:44:45.724
of these both
these disorders are very similar.

00:44:46.934 --> 00:44:49.937
However, there's one exception.

00:44:50.020 --> 00:44:53.440
Neurological abnormalities
are seen in vitamin

00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.443
B12 deficiency, but not in folate,

00:44:56.443 --> 00:44:59.113
because in vitamin B12

00:44:59.113 --> 00:45:03.534
is also important
for generation of the myelin,

00:45:03.826 --> 00:45:09.331
which is the outer covering
of the nervous system or the neurons.

00:45:09.665 --> 00:45:14.002
So that's why there is a vitamin B12
deficiency that the outer

00:45:14.002 --> 00:45:17.923
covering of the neurons,
the myelin, is not formed that well.

00:45:18.424 --> 00:45:22.594
And that leads to neurological
abnormalities in B12 deficiency.

00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.348
However,
folate that doesn't happen in followed

00:45:26.348 --> 00:45:30.018
because it is not really required
for the myelin generation.

00:45:30.894 --> 00:45:34.606
But apart from that,
neurological abnormalities,

00:45:35.107 --> 00:45:37.943
which are three of the features,
are similar

00:45:37.943 --> 00:45:40.946
in both these conditions.

00:45:44.324 --> 00:45:47.161
So the clinical and laboratory findings,

00:45:47.161 --> 00:45:50.414
there are a lot of nonspecific signs
and symptoms of anemia

00:45:50.456 --> 00:45:54.585
like fatigue, tiredness, failure
to thrive,

00:45:55.002 --> 00:45:57.796
macro anemia,

00:45:57.796 --> 00:46:00.591
relatively low reticular site count.

00:46:00.591 --> 00:46:03.844
As I mentioned earlier,
the reticular site count

00:46:03.844 --> 00:46:07.264
basically reflects
the functioning of the bone marrow.

00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.685
Since this is not really,
nutritional problem.

00:46:12.603 --> 00:46:14.813
It basically

00:46:14.813 --> 00:46:19.359
it it affects pretty much all the, cells.

00:46:19.359 --> 00:46:23.489
So that that basically leads
to low reticular site count.

00:46:23.864 --> 00:46:26.867
In the, in the,

00:46:26.950 --> 00:46:29.953
sorry, in the, basal circulation,

00:46:30.579 --> 00:46:33.582
the one of the important,

00:46:33.791 --> 00:46:36.251
diagnostic feature of macroscopic

00:46:36.251 --> 00:46:39.797
anemia
is hyper segmentation of neutrophils.

00:46:40.172 --> 00:46:43.425
So because of the derangement of the DNA

00:46:43.425 --> 00:46:48.388
synthesis, the segmentation of neutrophils
is not like

00:46:48.388 --> 00:46:52.768
a normal segmentation,
which is about 3 to 4 or 3 to 5 loads

00:46:54.186 --> 00:46:57.606
in cases of, macro static anemia,

00:46:57.606 --> 00:47:01.235
the segmentation could be much more
than the normal segmentation.

00:47:01.527 --> 00:47:05.447
And this is one of the earliest
finding of macroscopic anemia.

00:47:05.447 --> 00:47:09.117
So when we are looking
at the peripheral blood smear

00:47:10.202 --> 00:47:12.246
and we see a patient

00:47:12.246 --> 00:47:15.249
with increased MCV or metastatic anemia,

00:47:16.124 --> 00:47:18.252
we try to find hyper segmented

00:47:18.252 --> 00:47:21.880
neutrophils
and hyper segmented neutrophils.

00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.883
Basically that kind of.

00:47:25.634 --> 00:47:28.178
It's like one to not like

00:47:28.178 --> 00:47:32.391
it's not the most specific feature
for macro anemia.

00:47:32.391 --> 00:47:34.601
But if we can see hyper segmented
neutrophils

00:47:34.601 --> 00:47:37.604
is really helpful
for the diagnostic purpose.

00:47:37.688 --> 00:47:42.067
Mild thrombocytopenia
decrease in platelets or neutropenia.

00:47:42.067 --> 00:47:46.905
As I said earlier, it's
because DNA synthesis is not only required

00:47:46.905 --> 00:47:47.656
for the red blood

00:47:47.656 --> 00:47:51.535
cell precursors, it's also important
for platelets and neutropenia.

00:47:51.535 --> 00:47:54.454
So all the three lineages are affected.

00:47:54.454 --> 00:47:56.874
Bigalow
plastic changes in marrow is common.

00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.085
Neurological findings B12

00:48:00.085 --> 00:48:03.922
is only seen in B12 deficiency
like loss of production.

00:48:03.922 --> 00:48:06.091
Since axilla,

00:48:06.091 --> 00:48:08.218
psychomotor retardation and seizures,

00:48:08.218 --> 00:48:11.346
so these are commonly seen in vitamin B12
deficiency.

00:48:13.223 --> 00:48:16.810
These this is an example of hyper
segmented neutrophils.

00:48:17.144 --> 00:48:23.901
So here there are at least 123467
segments of neutrophils.

00:48:24.192 --> 00:48:27.195
Usually we see around 3 to 5

00:48:27.905 --> 00:48:28.238
here.

00:48:28.238 --> 00:48:32.910
Also this is a somewhat immature
neutrophils.

00:48:33.076 --> 00:48:35.913
But the segmentation is again
very atypical.

00:48:35.913 --> 00:48:38.373
And here.

00:48:38.373 --> 00:48:41.752
Megalo plastic changes
in the precursor of the red blood cell.

00:48:42.002 --> 00:48:46.131
So it basically shows a giant Mylo site.

00:48:47.549 --> 00:48:48.967
These two.

00:48:48.967 --> 00:48:51.219
So it's it's basically the nuclei.

00:48:51.219 --> 00:48:54.222
If we look at the nuclei
it is very, very immature.

00:48:54.222 --> 00:48:57.100
The chromatin is kind of dispersed.

00:48:57.100 --> 00:48:59.102
However the cytoplasm is bluish.

00:48:59.102 --> 00:49:02.147
So that means the cytoplasm
is kind of mature.

00:49:02.147 --> 00:49:04.691
But the nuclei
is looks very very immature.

00:49:07.194 --> 00:49:09.613
So that's like a basic

00:49:09.613 --> 00:49:12.699
work of, of macro anemia.

00:49:13.992 --> 00:49:15.827
Let's talk about normal Citic anemia,

00:49:15.827 --> 00:49:20.999
which is the the most,
most of the anemia in our day to day

00:49:20.999 --> 00:49:24.002
practice would come under normal acidic
anemia.

00:49:24.586 --> 00:49:26.421
Category

00:49:26.421 --> 00:49:29.716
differential diagnosis of normal Citic
anemia is

00:49:31.593 --> 00:49:32.678
based upon B.

00:49:32.678 --> 00:49:37.307
Basically, there is a big list of normal
Citic anemia.

00:49:37.307 --> 00:49:40.602
So anything that doesn't come under
micro Citic anemia

00:49:40.602 --> 00:49:43.605
and macro Citic anemia would come under
normal civic anemia.

00:49:43.730 --> 00:49:47.859
So the list of the normal Citic
anemia is really huge.

00:49:48.318 --> 00:49:52.656
So basically we try to put that put

00:49:52.948 --> 00:49:56.159
normal Citic anemia
in two major categories.

00:49:56.535 --> 00:49:59.371
Whether the bone marrow is functioning
or not functioning.

00:49:59.371 --> 00:50:02.916
So that means if the reticular sites
are increased in number

00:50:03.041 --> 00:50:05.127
that means the bone marrow is functioning.

00:50:05.127 --> 00:50:09.047
So the most common causes of increased
red Citic

00:50:09.089 --> 00:50:14.511
anemia would be hemolytic anemia
or post hemorrhagic anemia or anemia.

00:50:14.511 --> 00:50:16.263
After bleeding.

00:50:16.263 --> 00:50:19.307
If this if we see
the reticular sites are decreased,

00:50:19.307 --> 00:50:23.770
or the percentage of reticular sites
are lower than the normal reference range,

00:50:24.062 --> 00:50:27.315
there is again a big list of causes

00:50:27.315 --> 00:50:31.028
which can cause from acidic anemia
with decreased reticular sites.

00:50:31.653 --> 00:50:35.866
Anemia of chronic disorders
can also come under this category.

00:50:36.158 --> 00:50:38.744
Lot of endocrine disease, liver disease,

00:50:39.703 --> 00:50:42.039
marrow infiltration

00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.042
minor dysplastic syndrome, which is like,

00:50:45.959 --> 00:50:48.045
kind of a cancer of the bone

00:50:48.045 --> 00:50:51.214
marrow precursors, hyperplastic anemia.

00:50:51.214 --> 00:50:52.883
That means aplastic anemia.

00:50:52.883 --> 00:50:55.719
So that means the bone
marrow is not functioning, whether it's

00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:59.222
because of the vital, in fact, infection
or some kind of an insult.

00:50:59.681 --> 00:51:04.770
So the list for the normal Citic anemia
with decreased sites is really huge.

00:51:05.187 --> 00:51:09.316
So evaluation of normal static anemia,

00:51:09.316 --> 00:51:12.861
we try to look at the peripheral smear
and come up with critical side count.

00:51:14.196 --> 00:51:16.198
And then if theoretical side count

00:51:16.198 --> 00:51:21.078
as as I mentioned earlier is decreased,
then we need to work up

00:51:21.078 --> 00:51:25.248
for the anemia of all the endocrine
diseases, renal disease, liver disease.

00:51:25.957 --> 00:51:29.711
If the Red cross site
counts are increased, that that means

00:51:30.670 --> 00:51:34.466
the red blood cells are destroyed
in the peripheral circulation

00:51:35.092 --> 00:51:37.761
due to various reason.

00:51:37.761 --> 00:51:41.098
It could be due to some kind
of a viral infection, or it could be

00:51:41.098 --> 00:51:44.476
some kind of auto antibodies
against the red blood cells.

00:51:44.768 --> 00:51:50.065
So, there is again, a big list
for the causes of hemolytic anemia.

00:51:51.024 --> 00:51:52.567
Sometimes,

00:51:52.567 --> 00:51:56.196
iron studies might be helpful
to, to rule out because some of the iron

00:51:56.446 --> 00:52:00.659
iron, deficiency anemia can also come
under the normal Citic anemia,

00:52:00.659 --> 00:52:03.703
especially the borderline category
of iron deficiency anemia.

00:52:03.995 --> 00:52:08.083
So if the iron parameters
are completely on low, that really would

00:52:08.083 --> 00:52:11.920
help, to diagnose borderline causes of,

00:52:12.462 --> 00:52:14.923
iron deficiency anemia.

00:52:14.923 --> 00:52:18.593
If all these parameters fail,
then the bone

00:52:18.593 --> 00:52:21.596
marrow biopsy would be the ultimate,

00:52:21.763 --> 00:52:23.056
diagnostic.

00:52:23.056 --> 00:52:24.975
Feature.

00:52:24.975 --> 00:52:27.060
Especially in cases of,

00:52:27.060 --> 00:52:31.356
some of the marrow infiltration,
anemia and aplastic

00:52:31.356 --> 00:52:35.235
anemia, bone marrow becomes
absolutely necessary for that diagnosis.

00:52:35.735 --> 00:52:38.196
That diagnosis.

00:52:38.196 --> 00:52:39.406
Okay.

00:52:39.406 --> 00:52:43.410
So hemolytic anemia,
as is a major category for

00:52:44.202 --> 00:52:47.038
normal static
anemia with increase reticular sites

00:52:47.038 --> 00:52:49.416
basically means the bone
marrow is functioning.

00:52:49.416 --> 00:52:52.711
Again, it can be divided into inherited
hemolytic anemia.

00:52:52.711 --> 00:52:54.921
And acquired hemolytic anemia.

00:52:54.921 --> 00:52:58.925
And I don't have time to go over in detail
about all these causes.

00:52:58.925 --> 00:53:03.138
But I will basically try
to give a basic outline

00:53:03.138 --> 00:53:06.766
of the causes of these inherited
hemolytic anemia.

00:53:07.058 --> 00:53:12.230
The most common causes are membrane
defects, hereditary status psychosis.

00:53:12.230 --> 00:53:12.981
I'll talk a little bit

00:53:12.981 --> 00:53:17.068
about hereditary state of psychosis
because it's a relatively common disorder.

00:53:17.569 --> 00:53:18.653
Globin defects.

00:53:19.779 --> 00:53:20.947
Like thalassemia

00:53:20.947 --> 00:53:23.867
or sickle cell
anemia can also come under this category.

00:53:23.867 --> 00:53:26.620
Most of the time, sickle cell anemia,

00:53:26.620 --> 00:53:29.748
metabolic disorder
like enzyme deficiency, glucose six

00:53:29.748 --> 00:53:32.751
phosphate deficiency
is one of the commonest deficiency

00:53:33.126 --> 00:53:36.129
of the enzyme,
which can cause hemolytic anemia,

00:53:36.338 --> 00:53:39.424
so these are the inherited
hemolytic causes

00:53:39.424 --> 00:53:42.427
of inherited hemolytic anemia.

00:53:42.636 --> 00:53:44.471
Hereditary spell psychosis

00:53:44.471 --> 00:53:49.267
is the most common
cause of hereditary hemolytic anemia.

00:53:50.227 --> 00:53:53.730
The red blood cells are smaller in size.

00:53:53.730 --> 00:53:56.733
They are smaller microscopic,
but they're not like,

00:53:56.983 --> 00:54:00.737
the hemoglobin is normal in other.

00:54:01.029 --> 00:54:02.697
So they are microscopic status.

00:54:02.697 --> 00:54:06.076
The size of the red blood
cells are kind of smaller,

00:54:06.326 --> 00:54:09.120
but the hemoglobin is normal in, in there.

00:54:09.120 --> 00:54:13.208
So it's basically it's it's a smaller red.

00:54:13.667 --> 00:54:16.086
It's, it's a dense form of red blood
cells.

00:54:16.086 --> 00:54:17.712
They're smaller, but very dense.

00:54:18.672 --> 00:54:19.839
The MTV is

00:54:19.839 --> 00:54:23.760
more or less kind of,
normal usually mixes.

00:54:23.802 --> 00:54:27.555
So this is the one parameter
where the MCC at C is

00:54:27.806 --> 00:54:30.809
one disease that at C can be helpful.

00:54:31.268 --> 00:54:34.271
So basically MCC at C is usually increased

00:54:34.479 --> 00:54:37.440
denoting that the size of the red blood

00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.443
cells are kind of smaller in size.

00:54:41.528 --> 00:54:43.780
Although the size of the red blood
cells are smaller,

00:54:43.780 --> 00:54:46.783
the hemoglobin concentration
is more or less normal.

00:54:47.742 --> 00:54:50.870
The inheritance
pattern of the hereditary titles

00:54:50.954 --> 00:54:54.499
is in about 75% of
the cases is articular dominant.

00:54:56.584 --> 00:55:00.130
It happens
if we look at the genetic etiology.

00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:05.844
It happens due to mutation in the various
structural membrane proteins

00:55:05.844 --> 00:55:09.306
or instead of the red blood
cells, most commonly

00:55:09.306 --> 00:55:12.309
in the anchoring gene.

00:55:12.600 --> 00:55:15.603
And which 30 of them,

00:55:16.271 --> 00:55:19.107
status a hereditary status, say twosies.

00:55:19.107 --> 00:55:24.446
If the diagnosis is made
and spleen is removed from the patient.

00:55:24.446 --> 00:55:27.907
Because spleen is the most common site

00:55:28.283 --> 00:55:31.286
for the destruction
of the red blood cells.

00:55:31.619 --> 00:55:36.166
So because of the smaller size
of the red blood cells and the condensed

00:55:36.166 --> 00:55:39.127
form, because of the skyrocketing form
of the red blood cells,

00:55:39.461 --> 00:55:42.964
these red blood
cells becomes much more kind of,

00:55:44.591 --> 00:55:45.800
tighter.

00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:48.887
They're not that flexible
compared to the normal red blood cells.

00:55:49.095 --> 00:55:53.308
So they get destroyed easily
in the capillary circulation.

00:55:53.641 --> 00:55:56.353
And the most common site for
that is the spleen.

00:55:56.353 --> 00:56:00.815
So if we take out the spleen
pretty much cured these patients.

00:56:01.149 --> 00:56:04.152
However,
there might be something caution needed.

00:56:04.152 --> 00:56:06.696
Overall precaution after the splenectomy.

00:56:06.696 --> 00:56:09.366
So they might need,

00:56:09.366 --> 00:56:11.826
treatment or,

00:56:11.826 --> 00:56:16.539
for the some of the viral infection
or some of the common anemia.

00:56:16.539 --> 00:56:21.419
But most of the time it's basically
if we take out the spleen, it, it,

00:56:22.003 --> 00:56:25.006
basically cures
heritage status like ptosis.

00:56:26.383 --> 00:56:28.843
This is what it looks like,
official blood circulation.

00:56:28.843 --> 00:56:34.265
So the normal red blood cell would have
a nice central pallor in the center.

00:56:35.016 --> 00:56:38.645
However, if you look at this photo sites,
they are kind of smaller

00:56:38.645 --> 00:56:40.814
in size
compared to the normal red blood cell.

00:56:40.814 --> 00:56:43.900
But also there is no central pallor.

00:56:43.900 --> 00:56:47.153
So these are basically condensed
red blood cells.

00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:50.532
So that's why it becomes
much more kind of tighter compared

00:56:50.532 --> 00:56:53.535
to the flexible,
you know, red blood cells.

00:56:53.618 --> 00:56:55.662
And they're much
more prone to destruction.

00:56:57.872 --> 00:56:59.666
How do we diagnose assess.

00:56:59.666 --> 00:57:01.376
They look at the peripheral blood smear.

00:57:01.376 --> 00:57:03.169
And we see a lot of cirrhosis.

00:57:03.169 --> 00:57:04.754
That's that's helpful.

00:57:04.754 --> 00:57:07.757
Although not diagnostic.

00:57:08.007 --> 00:57:11.052
Osmotic fragility is one of the common

00:57:11.428 --> 00:57:14.431
sensitive tests
for the diagnosis of etches.

00:57:14.556 --> 00:57:18.643
It basically measures the in vitro
lysis of the red blood cells

00:57:18.643 --> 00:57:23.231
that's been suspended
in different solutions of sodium chloride

00:57:24.774 --> 00:57:25.191
status.

00:57:25.191 --> 00:57:29.737
Sites are characterized by the
membrane loss, and they're basically less

00:57:29.737 --> 00:57:33.825
redundant to withstand the,
increasing, decreasing osmolarity.

00:57:33.825 --> 00:57:37.912
So they they destroy much easier
compared to the normal red blood cells.

00:57:38.621 --> 00:57:41.666
However, parasites are not osmotic

00:57:41.666 --> 00:57:45.044
fragility test is not specific
for the diagnosis of HS.

00:57:45.545 --> 00:57:49.716
It only basically tells us
that the patient has parasites.

00:57:49.716 --> 00:57:53.178
It doesn't tell us anything
about the etiology of this parasite.

00:57:53.845 --> 00:57:57.640
So instead of signs can be seen
not only in etches,

00:57:57.682 --> 00:58:01.644
but it can also be seen in certain
other conditions like autoimmune

00:58:01.644 --> 00:58:04.522
hemolytic anemia. Bone patients

00:58:05.648 --> 00:58:07.442
can also have a slew of sites.

00:58:07.442 --> 00:58:11.029
So osmotic fragility only tells us about,

00:58:11.863 --> 00:58:15.658
the basic the feature that the patient
has fatal sites.

00:58:15.825 --> 00:58:20.580
It doesn't basically tells us
about the etiology of the change.

00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.333
As for the psychosis,

00:58:23.333 --> 00:58:25.376
this is what,

00:58:25.376 --> 00:58:27.629
basically

00:58:27.629 --> 00:58:30.048
the core for the schematic facility
looks like

00:58:30.048 --> 00:58:32.926
in cases of, a normal red blood cells.

00:58:32.926 --> 00:58:34.677
This is,

00:58:34.677 --> 00:58:37.680
compared to the normal red blood cells,
it has patients.

00:58:38.765 --> 00:58:40.934
Red blood cells basically gets destroyed.

00:58:40.934 --> 00:58:43.895
Is, usually compared
to the normal red flashes.

00:58:43.895 --> 00:58:49.484
So in here and normally
they would get destroyed at 0.5% saline.

00:58:49.484 --> 00:58:52.695
But the in cases of HSA patients,
they would destroy that.

00:58:52.695 --> 00:58:55.657
Let's see 0.2

00:58:55.949 --> 00:58:58.952
less than the 0.5%.

00:59:00.370 --> 00:59:02.622
Flow cytometry is,

00:59:02.622 --> 00:59:06.751
the most sensitive
and specific way for the diagnosis of HS

00:59:07.752 --> 00:59:09.128
because the the

00:59:09.128 --> 00:59:13.007
dye which we use here,
it specifically binds to the red blood

00:59:13.007 --> 00:59:14.259
cell membrane.

00:59:14.259 --> 00:59:18.346
So if the flow cytometry is positive,

00:59:18.763 --> 00:59:22.100
that means that the patient
has hereditary.

00:59:22.100 --> 00:59:28.064
This parasite ptosis is almost 97
to 98% specific and quite sensitive to.

00:59:28.064 --> 00:59:32.277
So this is becoming much more commoner
and more kind of used.

00:59:32.277 --> 00:59:35.280
As for the diagnosis
itself, heritage status ptosis.

00:59:37.657 --> 00:59:41.077
D6 PD glucose six phosphate deficiency.

00:59:41.494 --> 00:59:44.497
I'm just going to touch
a little bit about this,

00:59:44.497 --> 00:59:48.668
because this is also one of the commonest
cause of hemolytic anemia.

00:59:49.419 --> 00:59:53.798
This particular enzyme catalyzes
the initial step in the pentose

00:59:53.798 --> 00:59:57.302
phosphate pathway, which is required
for the energy generation.

00:59:57.802 --> 01:00:02.515
This is a X-linked disease,
so boys or the males are affected.

01:00:02.557 --> 01:00:04.642
Females can be career.

01:00:04.642 --> 01:00:08.313
There are a lot of different variant
or mutations have been described.

01:00:10.898 --> 01:00:13.610
It's commonly
seen in African-American population

01:00:13.610 --> 01:00:17.405
about 35% in the Sardinian population,
also seen in Asians.

01:00:17.655 --> 01:00:20.575
So this is again
common in African population

01:00:20.575 --> 01:00:23.578
and some of the Mediterranean
population to.

01:00:25.872 --> 01:00:27.457
The clinical presentation

01:00:27.457 --> 01:00:31.085
could be either
acute acute acquired hemolytic anemia.

01:00:31.085 --> 01:00:36.466
So many of these patients or the mutation
the patients having particular mutations

01:00:36.841 --> 01:00:41.596
are more prone to hemolysis
or destruction of the red blood cells

01:00:41.888 --> 01:00:45.016
when they are exposed to certain drugs
or certain

01:00:46.476 --> 01:00:48.936
like, certain,

01:00:48.936 --> 01:00:51.397
beads or dyes.

01:00:51.397 --> 01:00:55.276
So there is, again, a big list of,
chemicals

01:00:55.276 --> 01:00:59.072
or dyes or drugs
which can precipitate these patients.

01:00:59.656 --> 01:01:01.908
So these patients

01:01:01.908 --> 01:01:05.745
basically will have to avoid
those certain drugs like fava beans is

01:01:05.745 --> 01:01:09.624
one of the common cause of precipitation
in Mediterranean population.

01:01:10.208 --> 01:01:14.295
So if this patient had this PD deficiency
they will have to avoid even some.

01:01:14.295 --> 01:01:17.423
Sometimes the smell and smell of the foul

01:01:17.423 --> 01:01:21.135
beans can also precipitate,
hemolytic anemia.

01:01:22.178 --> 01:01:23.596
Many of the patients would

01:01:23.596 --> 01:01:28.643
have basically chronic mild hemolytic
anemia all their lives in the physic.

01:01:28.643 --> 01:01:32.855
And the the phenotype
or the clinical presentation depends

01:01:32.855 --> 01:01:35.858
upon the underlying mutation
in these patients.

01:01:37.694 --> 01:01:38.903
This is

01:01:38.903 --> 01:01:41.406
this is a Heinz body test done in G6.

01:01:41.406 --> 01:01:46.202
PD is basically showing us the
precipitated denatured hemoglobin here.

01:01:46.619 --> 01:01:49.122
So this is a supravit in the stain.

01:01:49.122 --> 01:01:52.875
And the patients with E6 PD deficiency
because of the nature,

01:01:52.875 --> 01:01:56.045
because the G6, PD
this particular enzyme is deficient.

01:01:56.045 --> 01:01:59.507
They are more prone to destruction
precipitate

01:01:59.507 --> 01:02:01.592
precipitation of the hemoglobin.

01:02:01.592 --> 01:02:05.972
And this precipitated form of
the hemoglobin can be can be seen by high

01:02:06.097 --> 01:02:07.056
bodies.

01:02:07.056 --> 01:02:10.268
Can be seen as Heinz Heinz bodies
in to provide insulin.

01:02:10.727 --> 01:02:15.857
This is again not specific for d6 PD
any condition where we have destruction

01:02:16.232 --> 01:02:21.279
of oxidized sorry stress
leading to denatured hemoglobin would

01:02:22.697 --> 01:02:25.491
lead to formation of Heinz bodies.

01:02:25.491 --> 01:02:29.704
But in the right clinical scenario
and clinical kind of manifestation,

01:02:29.704 --> 01:02:32.915
if we see Heinz bodies,
that becomes kind of very helpful.

01:02:34.751 --> 01:02:37.336
These are by itself,

01:02:37.336 --> 01:02:40.339
this is like as the picture shown here

01:02:40.798 --> 01:02:43.760
looks like it has been taken up by it.

01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.763
So what happens when those,

01:02:48.765 --> 01:02:50.892
Heinz bodies,

01:02:50.892 --> 01:02:53.352
the, the macrophages

01:02:53.352 --> 01:02:58.608
or the scavenger cells in the spleen,
they will try to take out

01:02:58.608 --> 01:03:03.529
this precipitated hemoglobin
and the macrophages will take a bite.

01:03:03.529 --> 01:03:06.657
So this part of the red blood
cell would be taken out.

01:03:07.658 --> 01:03:09.744
After that it basically looks like that.

01:03:09.744 --> 01:03:12.580
So there was a Heinz body
precipitated hemoglobin.

01:03:12.580 --> 01:03:15.583
It has been taken out by the macrophages.

01:03:15.792 --> 01:03:17.877
And that's why it looks like white cells.

01:03:17.877 --> 01:03:21.005
So although it's
commonly seen in this theory but again

01:03:21.005 --> 01:03:24.008
it's not diagnostic
and not specific for it.

01:03:24.050 --> 01:03:25.551
But in again clinical right.

01:03:25.551 --> 01:03:28.596
Clinical scenario it's helpful test.

01:03:28.596 --> 01:03:31.599
They briefly for d6 PD deficiency.

01:03:32.558 --> 01:03:35.812
The bedside test is the fluorescent
spot test.

01:03:36.229 --> 01:03:39.398
So these cards have d6 p which is the

01:03:40.691 --> 01:03:43.694
glucose six phosphate and and ADP

01:03:44.946 --> 01:03:48.491
basically detects
the generation of nADPh from nADPh.

01:03:48.616 --> 01:03:52.328
So we need to put Nadp
plus and B6 PD on this card.

01:03:52.745 --> 01:03:59.377
And if the basically if d6 PD is there,
then nADPh is generated.

01:03:59.377 --> 01:04:04.090
And if there is no d6 PD
then nADPh would not be generated.

01:04:05.258 --> 01:04:10.263
However, the caveat is
it only detects the severe form of d6 pd.

01:04:10.471 --> 01:04:16.519
So enzyme levels has to be below 3,030%
to be basically this these cards

01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:19.605
to be positive enzyme activity assays

01:04:19.605 --> 01:04:22.817
done in the majority
of the big laboratories.

01:04:22.817 --> 01:04:25.987
It basically depends
on the spectral photometric assay.

01:04:26.821 --> 01:04:30.408
It tells us about the
the amount of enzyme present.

01:04:31.284 --> 01:04:33.786
However, all these non

01:04:33.786 --> 01:04:39.041
genetic or non PCR based test
becomes really irrelevant

01:04:39.041 --> 01:04:42.044
if the patient
has been recently transfused

01:04:42.753 --> 01:04:45.965
which is very common
in cases of d6, PD deficiency

01:04:45.965 --> 01:04:50.344
because these patients
would lead to acute like hemolysis

01:04:51.846 --> 01:04:53.264
after the transfusion.

01:04:53.264 --> 01:04:55.725
Obviously
we won't be looking at the patients.

01:04:55.725 --> 01:04:58.352
Red blood cells will be looking
at the transfused red blood cells.

01:04:58.352 --> 01:05:00.855
So these is, enzyme activity.

01:05:00.855 --> 01:05:03.858
Actually information
spot is not that helpful.

01:05:04.775 --> 01:05:07.320
The PCR based test mutation testing

01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:10.531
for PCR becomes, important at that point.

01:05:10.531 --> 01:05:14.368
If we are trying to basically make
a diagnosis immediately after hemolysis,

01:05:14.368 --> 01:05:18.080
or it's really helpful in prenatal
diagnosis and genetic counseling,

01:05:19.040 --> 01:05:21.792
it will tell us about the
about the mutation

01:05:21.792 --> 01:05:24.921
and also the predicted phenotype
in those patients.

01:05:25.588 --> 01:05:28.966
So the hemolytic anemia, is

01:05:30.134 --> 01:05:32.136
we talked about the inherited form

01:05:32.136 --> 01:05:35.139
of hemolytic anemia.

01:05:35.139 --> 01:05:39.435
Now a little bit about the acquired form
of hemolytic anemia inherited forms.

01:05:39.435 --> 01:05:43.272
Although very interesting,
we don't see that commonly acquired

01:05:43.272 --> 01:05:47.693
forms of hemolytic anemia are much
more common than the innate

01:05:48.653 --> 01:05:50.863
immune mediated.

01:05:50.863 --> 01:05:53.115
We see commonly

01:05:53.115 --> 01:05:57.286
in cases of infections,
micro angioplasty, hemolytic anemia.

01:05:57.286 --> 01:06:01.207
Basically it it's called it leads to red

01:06:01.207 --> 01:06:04.210
blood cell, destruction in

01:06:04.961 --> 01:06:08.965
we see all these destructed
red blood cells under the painful sphere.

01:06:09.757 --> 01:06:11.968
It can be associated with infection.

01:06:11.968 --> 01:06:12.635
So again, there's

01:06:12.635 --> 01:06:17.139
a big list of hemolytic
anemia acquired forms of hemolytic anemia.

01:06:17.556 --> 01:06:20.101
And these are the common like, forms.

01:06:20.101 --> 01:06:23.104
But again this there is a big list

01:06:23.270 --> 01:06:26.273
of acquired forms.

01:06:26.524 --> 01:06:29.527
Immune mediated hemolytic anemia.

01:06:29.527 --> 01:06:32.446
Most of the time we might not even,

01:06:32.446 --> 01:06:34.699
know the exact etiology. Why?

01:06:34.699 --> 01:06:37.702
There is a hemolytic anemia in this.

01:06:38.703 --> 01:06:42.456
In some of the patients,
it basically leads to premature

01:06:42.456 --> 01:06:45.960
destruction of red blood cells
due to acquired antibodies.

01:06:46.293 --> 01:06:49.296
And why the patient has particular
antibodies.

01:06:49.630 --> 01:06:52.216
It's not it's not always clear.

01:06:52.216 --> 01:06:53.968
It could could be due to some blood

01:06:53.968 --> 01:06:57.638
infection or it could be due
to some exposure in the past.

01:06:58.097 --> 01:07:01.058
So these patients
basically have acquired antibodies.

01:07:01.058 --> 01:07:04.645
And that leads to the binding
of these antibodies

01:07:04.645 --> 01:07:08.149
to the red blood cells
and destruction of the red blood cells.

01:07:08.649 --> 01:07:10.234
There are two make test,

01:07:11.193 --> 01:07:14.655
basic test, direct test and indirect test.

01:07:15.031 --> 01:07:18.034
That indirect indirect forms test.

01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:21.162
We are trying to detect the

01:07:21.787 --> 01:07:23.706
the antibodies

01:07:23.706 --> 01:07:26.709
which are attached to the surface
of the red blood cells

01:07:27.168 --> 01:07:29.587
in the indirect test,

01:07:29.587 --> 01:07:34.425
basically trying to find the antibodies
in the unbound, form

01:07:34.425 --> 01:07:37.386
or not really bound
to the red blood cells.

01:07:37.386 --> 01:07:40.890
So these are the basic test
which tells us about the,

01:07:41.766 --> 01:07:44.769
whether auto antibodies are present,

01:07:45.352 --> 01:07:48.647
in the, in the patient's circulation
or if they are present,

01:07:48.647 --> 01:07:52.693
whether it's in the form of attach,
if they are attached to the red blood

01:07:52.693 --> 01:07:55.696
cells or if they are freely circulating
in the cell.

01:07:57.114 --> 01:07:57.907
Microalgae.

01:07:57.907 --> 01:07:58.783
Antibiotic hemolytic

01:07:58.783 --> 01:08:02.661
anemia is characterized by red blood
cell fragments in the peripheral blood,

01:08:02.870 --> 01:08:07.208
so it is also known
as sister sites differential.

01:08:07.249 --> 01:08:10.002
If you're seeing a lot of sister
sites under the peripheral blood,

01:08:11.670 --> 01:08:12.963
in the peripheral smear.

01:08:12.963 --> 01:08:13.881
Other differential.

01:08:13.881 --> 01:08:16.884
The most common differential is

01:08:16.926 --> 01:08:19.929
Chombo
thrombotic thrombocytopenia purpura.

01:08:19.929 --> 01:08:22.973
This is again a rare
although it's a rare condition.

01:08:22.973 --> 01:08:26.936
But it's a really dangerous, condition
and is characterized

01:08:26.936 --> 01:08:30.022
by five different parameters
like the patient

01:08:30.022 --> 01:08:33.943
also has not only has anemia,
the platelets are also involved.

01:08:34.401 --> 01:08:38.114
The patient also has renal
problems, neurological problems.

01:08:38.489 --> 01:08:41.450
So there are like 4
or 5 different parameters

01:08:41.450 --> 01:08:44.453
which define thrombotic
thrombocytopenia purpura.

01:08:44.495 --> 01:08:47.498
And these patients need to be treated

01:08:48.582 --> 01:08:50.167
as soon as possible.

01:08:50.167 --> 01:08:53.170
Otherwise these patients really succumb
to the

01:08:53.796 --> 01:08:56.590
the massive hemolysis going on

01:08:56.590 --> 01:08:57.341
occurs.

01:08:57.341 --> 01:09:01.762
Hemolytic uremic syndrome happens
basically due to some of the, toxins,

01:09:02.138 --> 01:09:05.474
some of the bacterial, equally,
and Shigella toxins.

01:09:05.975 --> 01:09:10.479
These are also, again, not common, but
these these patients need to be treated.

01:09:12.273 --> 01:09:14.191
And then again, the sister sites

01:09:14.191 --> 01:09:17.903
are these red blood cell fragments
can form in so many different conditions,

01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:21.824
many carcinomas
disseminated intravascular population

01:09:21.824 --> 01:09:25.828
because of the derangement
or the Coughlan proteins.

01:09:27.037 --> 01:09:30.082
And some of these rare
some of these are rare called

01:09:30.082 --> 01:09:33.335
causes of sister sites
malignant hypertension.

01:09:33.335 --> 01:09:38.716
Some of these giant really big
hemangioma is hemoglobin hemoglobin, urea

01:09:38.716 --> 01:09:42.511
and drugs
are one of the common cause of the

01:09:42.636 --> 01:09:45.639
our sister site formation.

01:09:46.056 --> 01:09:47.266
This is what it looks like.

01:09:47.266 --> 01:09:51.228
The sister sites are the fragmented
red blood cell under the pressure smear.

01:09:51.645 --> 01:09:54.607
So these are the normal red blood cells.

01:09:54.982 --> 01:09:57.985
These basically cells are fragmented.

01:10:00.321 --> 01:10:03.324
Like and and your particular anemia.

01:10:04.658 --> 01:10:07.036
This I'm just mentioning this

01:10:07.036 --> 01:10:10.623
because this is the again, this is a rare
phenomenon marking globin urea.

01:10:10.998 --> 01:10:13.459
But it's like a very interesting
phenomenon.

01:10:13.459 --> 01:10:17.671
It happens basically it's a disorder
of transient hemoglobin emission

01:10:17.713 --> 01:10:23.177
or hemoglobin urea due to forceful
contact of the body with hard surface.

01:10:23.594 --> 01:10:26.555
So although it's not that rare,

01:10:27.014 --> 01:10:31.060
although it's not that common, it's
a very unique phenomena.

01:10:31.602 --> 01:10:37.358
So sometimes it's seen in marching
like soldiers or marching band. If,

01:10:38.651 --> 01:10:39.735
when there is a

01:10:39.735 --> 01:10:43.030
contact of the body with the hard surface

01:10:43.530 --> 01:10:46.408
and that leads to
no one really understands

01:10:46.408 --> 01:10:49.411
what is the pathophysiology

01:10:49.495 --> 01:10:51.914
in this, hemoglobin

01:10:51.914 --> 01:10:52.539
destruction.

01:10:52.539 --> 01:10:54.250
But this is like a unique phenomenon.

01:10:54.250 --> 01:10:59.505
That's why prolonged marches, competitive
running, karate and all those things

01:10:59.922 --> 01:11:03.509
which can lead to, although very rarely.

01:11:05.594 --> 01:11:08.347
Hemolytic
anemia associated with infection.

01:11:08.347 --> 01:11:12.559
This is again there's again
big list of all different

01:11:12.559 --> 01:11:17.064
kind of infection
which can cause hemolytic process

01:11:17.064 --> 01:11:20.067
in the red blood. So.

01:11:22.152 --> 01:11:23.362
Last but not

01:11:23.362 --> 01:11:27.032
the least is
the proximal nocturnal hemoglobin urea.

01:11:27.032 --> 01:11:29.952
It is again it's always a rare condition.

01:11:29.952 --> 01:11:32.454
It's again it's a very unique phenomena.

01:11:32.454 --> 01:11:37.001
It's characterized
by anemia and dark urine at night.

01:11:37.001 --> 01:11:41.505
So there is a destruction of red
blood cells at the at night.

01:11:41.505 --> 01:11:45.551
So that's why the name nocturnal comes
from also leads

01:11:45.551 --> 01:11:49.430
to formation of venous thrombosis,
especially in the large blood vessels.

01:11:49.972 --> 01:11:51.932
It's a quite clonal disorder.

01:11:51.932 --> 01:11:54.977
So it's not really a hereditary
or genetic cause.

01:11:55.227 --> 01:12:00.065
The mutation it's seen
in this speculated interferon gamma gene.

01:12:00.065 --> 01:12:01.358
This particular gene

01:12:02.526 --> 01:12:04.236
and this particular mutation

01:12:04.236 --> 01:12:08.866
is associated with the proximal
nocturnal hemoglobin area.

01:12:09.533 --> 01:12:12.745
Because of this particular mutation
in this gene, the

01:12:12.745 --> 01:12:16.040
the synthesis of the GPI

01:12:16.040 --> 01:12:19.251
linked protein,
which is the most important protein,

01:12:19.835 --> 01:12:22.838
to link red blood cell membrane

01:12:23.464 --> 01:12:25.716
if they are effective, the red blood

01:12:25.716 --> 01:12:28.886
cell membrane
proteins are kind of not linked properly,

01:12:28.886 --> 01:12:32.473
and they're much more prone to complement
mediated lysis.

01:12:33.098 --> 01:12:37.102
The diagnostic workup of this condition
is basically a full cytometry

01:12:37.102 --> 01:12:41.023
based test,
which looks for the GPI linked proteins.

01:12:41.482 --> 01:12:44.526
Treatment
is, basically this particular drug.

01:12:44.526 --> 01:12:49.948
It has been in use for last,
I would say 7 or 8 years. Now.

01:12:50.324 --> 01:12:54.870
This is a monoclonal antibody against
the C5 which is a complement factor.

01:12:55.287 --> 01:12:56.705
And it works pretty good.

01:12:56.705 --> 01:12:58.707
It's it's a directed therapy.

01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:03.003
Towards the complement C5.

01:13:04.129 --> 01:13:07.633
One of the other important caveat
of this particular condition

01:13:07.633 --> 01:13:11.887
is about 10 to 20% of this, PNH

01:13:12.596 --> 01:13:15.015
associated with a plastic anemia.

01:13:15.015 --> 01:13:19.603
So basically bone marrow failure
and minor this syndrome,

01:13:19.603 --> 01:13:24.191
which is again, it's kind of a clonal
disorder of the bone marrow.

01:13:24.441 --> 01:13:27.444
So any time, if,

01:13:27.528 --> 01:13:31.198
if a patient or clinician
is suspecting a PNH,

01:13:31.198 --> 01:13:35.411
they need to look for a plastic name
that is because of the close

01:13:36.036 --> 01:13:39.039
correlation between these.

01:13:39.832 --> 01:13:41.208
That's about it.

01:13:41.208 --> 01:13:46.296
That was in basic nutshell,
but all these three different types

01:13:46.296 --> 01:13:49.800
of anemia, microscopic anemia,
macro anemia,

01:13:50.592 --> 01:13:52.928
and normal city anemia.

01:13:52.928 --> 01:13:58.392
I try to basically, give
a basic information about these anemia.

01:13:58.392 --> 01:14:03.188
Again, anemia is a really big lost topic.

01:14:03.188 --> 01:14:05.858
And we can talk about it for like hours.

01:14:05.858 --> 01:14:10.696
But this is like a basic kind of work of,
of all, all the anemia combined.

01:14:11.155 --> 01:14:13.532
And I hope, that's helpful.

01:14:13.532 --> 01:14:14.324
Thank you very much.
