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Good afternoon everyone.

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Welcome to today's presentation
entitled Hematology M+Ms,

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Morphology and Mystery using a case study

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approach presented by Karen Brown.

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I'm Holly Banks, the education

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event coordinator
for ARUP's Institute for Learning.

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I'll now turn our time over to Karen.

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We'll begin
with an overview of some basic concepts

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that are related to the use of morphology
when identifying peripheral blood cells.

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And then we're going to use case studies
to focus on these morphologic guidelines.

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And how morphology
is still a very important adjunct test

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in helping to define various
define various hematologic disorders.

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The cases in this presentation
have been derived from a face

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to face presentation
that included more numerous case studies.

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The case is selected for review
in this presentation have been maintained

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in the numbers that were used
in the original presentation.

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These cases represent only a few of the
ones that I normally present.

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These are the

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objectives for today's session.

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Before we actually get into,

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the case
studies, I'm going to talk a little bit

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about some background information,
and I can't emphasize enough,

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as we move forward, the importance
of having a well-prepared,

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peripheral blood smear
with a good distribution of our red blood

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cells, and also to have an important
how important it is to have a good stain.

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So when we look at red blood cells,
we have to,

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assess the distribution of these cells
and the stain.

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And for those of you that are
well seasoned in looking at smears,

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you can recognize sometimes that the stain
just isn't where we need it to be

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and can deal with that.

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But I always encourage you,
if there are issues, with the stain

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and you can remake a smear and re stain it
if, it can be very important to do so.

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And we're going to be talking about
some cases moving forward where having

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morphology abnormalities is significant.

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And if we don't have a good stain
and we don't have

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good distribution of our cells,
and that can be problematic

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when we look at our red blood
cells, we are evaluating them

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for basically five different areas.

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We want to look at their overall size.

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We will look at their shape.

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We want to to look at the central pallor,

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or the area of hemoglobin content
within the cell.

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And the area of central pallor should be
about a third of the diameter of the cell.

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And then, of course,
we also look to see that, the red cells,

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do not have any inclusions,
which is the normal state.

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And of course, they're always
going to be variations in size and shape

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and the cells.

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But it's important to recognize
what is significant and what is not.

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So here is a nice image of some, red blood

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cells that are essentially normal
in their size and their shape.

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They are evenly distributed
throughout the smear.

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And then they also have a good,

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Central pallor.

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You can see here that we have nice
central pallor in these cells.

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This particular cell over on the left
is a little bit skewed in its shape,

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but that's certainly not anything
that's abnormality.

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Up here we see a little bit of an overlap
in the cells.

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But there again there is nothing unusual
when we see another area

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over here with some overlap.

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So our red cells become very useful
in assessing whether we truly do

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have that good area on the smear.

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Now when we talk

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about identifying leukocytes
and white blood cell

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morphology, there are certain guidelines
that are helpful as well.

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And of course, much as this still applies
to maturation and morphology

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of our red blood cells,
but in general, as cells

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mature, we're going to see they decrease
in their cell size.

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And this, as I mentioned, becomes
very important when we're trying to assess

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the morphology of white blood
cells, particularly

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when we're looking at potentially immature
cells.

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The chromatin becomes more clumped
and condensed as the cells mature.

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And of course, in the case of red blood
cells and nucleated red blood cells,

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that nucleus is going to be expelled
as this as the cell matures.

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In segmented

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neutrophils, of course,
we see light develop in our cells.

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And that helps, define those cells.

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The cytoplasm becomes more abundant
relatively as the cell matures.

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And in the case of red blood
cells, the coloration

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changes from blue to red
in, the mature red blood cell.

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And then in the case of granulocytes,

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for instance,
we will see granules that develop.

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This schematic is designed
to show these nuclear

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and cytoplasmic changes
that occur in our red.

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Well this is showing our,
white blood cells, but also

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applies to red blood cells.

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So on the top image we can see
if we look at the chromatin structure,

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you can see that immature cell on the left
has the loose open chromatin.

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And as the cell matures
it becomes more dense and clumped.

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And we have in case in this cell
now a poorly segmented neutrophil.

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Also notice the overall cell size
has decreased since the cell matured.

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The bottom image shows a coloration
that changes in the cytoplasm

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as the cell matures
from a very blue cytoplasm

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to a more pinkish cytoplasm,
in the case of our poorly

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segmented neutrophils and of course,
the development of granules that occurs.

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So in and when we look at red
blood cells the cell size also decreases.

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The chromatin structure

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becomes more dense and clumped
before the nucleus is expelled.

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And then the cytoplasmic color changes
from blue of course to a nice red.

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And this is

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showing again an

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image of a normal peripheral blood
smear that shows a nice distribution

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of our red blood cells, shows
nice size and shape of our cells,

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shows no inclusions,
shows a nice area of central pallor

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in our cells, or what
I like to call the whites of their eyes.

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And we find.

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So if we look, for instance here,
there's a nice

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we have nice areas of central pallor.

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And then of course we have a lymphocyte,

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and then we have poly segmented
neutrophil.

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And I want to mention that,

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a nice internal gauge
in helping to determine cell size again

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of red cells is to compare to the nucleus
of a small mature, lymphocyte.

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And you can tell this is a lymphocyte
just barely with some blue cytoplasm.

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Of course, the trick

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always is, is find that
small, normal, mature resting lymphocyte

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changes, however, and
when we're trying to identify malignant

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cells, it's a it's good to have the basis
of what normal looks like.

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And to remember all the criteria
I just talked about.

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Because when cells are malignant,
changes can occur.

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And these cells tend to have changes
that we will not see normally.

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So malignant cells, especially white cells
and morphology does change.

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And specific characteristics
can be helpful in classifying and defining

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abnormal population of cells.

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So in the case of cellular characteristics
the size can be variable

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sometimes or abnormally large
or even abnormally small.

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Sometimes we have to think that,

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the cells were all pure,
very similar, or have carnality.

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We also see nuclear changes
that can occur in malignancies.

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So shape changes are possible too.

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There can be collecting of our cells.

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There can be pseudo pilger hewwitt.

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There can be hypo segmentation.

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Hyper segmentation.

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Multi nuclear parity is possible.

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We can also see chromatin patterns
may look more loose and open,

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or may even represent
or be similar to megalo

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blast wide looking cells
where we have this asynchrony

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in the maturation
between the nucleus and the cytoplasm,

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we may see nucleolus
that we would not expect to see.

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Sometimes we may see very large nuclei,
only a very prominent nucleus Y.

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There can also be other asteroid features
that include again, nuclear cytoplasmic

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eggs and greasy increase in mitotic

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cells, numerous changes in the nucleus.

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We may also see cytoplasmic changes.

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We could see our rods.

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We can see mixed granulation where you'll
see basal silicon eosinophilic granules.

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There can be hypo granulation.

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And then the cells
may also be more fragile.

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And we could tend to see smudging
that is present.

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So I want to mention these characteristics
that are possible

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in our malignant cells or abnormal cells
as we move forward into our case studies.

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But also keep in mind what is normal.

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Then finally we can also assess platelets

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and have to think in terms of platelet
size and numbers.

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And I want to, make a point here
with the image on the right is showing

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not only our normal distribution
of red cells,

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but we have some nice normal
small platelets.

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Here's a platelet overlying a red cell.

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But on the left.

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Now we have
what would be considered a giant platelet.

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And we use the term giant.

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If the platelet is as big or bigger
than a red blood cell.

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And you can see in this case
that it is definitely giant.

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Now the term enlarged is used
if we just have a platelet

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that is smaller than the giant but
bigger than the normal that we would see.

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But it's important to
also evaluate our platelets.

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All right.

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At this
point we're ready for our first case.

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Case one an 88 year old female is brought

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to the emergency room by her son
after fall in her apartment.

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In addition to hip pain,
she complains of cramping

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and abdominal discomfort
associated with episodes of mild

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to moderate diarrhea
that has persisted for several days.

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She is feverish and disoriented.

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The history will be important,
and what information

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from clinical presentation
might be significant.

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And I think in this particular case,

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you should hone in on the age
of the patient and the clinical symptom

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of her, abdominal discomfort, cramping,
diarrhea that could be significant.

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She's also has some fever
and disorientation.

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And then from her CBC, I encourage you
to consider what parameters

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are abnormal here. And

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whenever I look at results

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from a complete blood count,
I always start at the top

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with my white count
and kind of work my way down.

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And then when I come to the red cell
related parameters

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h and h, I look for the rule of three.

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Okay, that my hematocrit is approximately
three times my hemoglobin.

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The hemoglobin is approximately
three times the red blood cell count.

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I look to see if the indices are normal.

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I assess the platelet count
and then I move forward down

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into differential results.

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So in this case

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I think you should note
of course the elevated white count.

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There is a slight anemia in this patient.

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And there's definitely a shift to the left
with her neutrophils.

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So if we look at one of the images

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now I'm going to

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interject a disclaimer here
as we move forward.

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Because I'm not going to show multiple
multiple multiple images from each case.

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So I typically have 2 to 3 images
for each case.

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But as we all know of course
it's important to assess multiple fields

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when we're looking and scanning
through our peripheral blood smear.

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But in the interest of time, I can't
I can't show too many.

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But note this is one image

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and here is another image.

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Case one polling question
which of the following

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is the most likely explanation
of this woman's condition?

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Chronic myelogenous leukemia.

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Chronic neutrophil like leukemia.

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Fulminant infection.

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Myelodysplastic syndrome.

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For case one,

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the correct answer is fulminant infection.

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So let's

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move on. And I want you to think about

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a couple additional questions
now as I move forward.

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And I think as as I mentioned,

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the white blood count being,

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elevated is

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something that should be considered

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and certainly would be unexpected
in someone that had just an infection.

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And so we certainly do want to consider
leukemia in this case,

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both the chronic myelogenous leukemia
and chronic neutrophil like leukemia.

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Now, with chronic myelogenous leukemia,
we would expect

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to see an increase, however,
perhaps in eosinophils in basa cells,

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we may see more evidence of earlier
immaturity.

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That is pro myocytes in mild sites
and maybe were reported in this, case.

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The age of patient is also very unusual
for someone that would present

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with a chronic myelogenous leukemia,
because this is a malignancy

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that presents in patients
that are in the 40 to 50 year age range.

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I would also say it's unlikely
that this would be a chronic neutrophil

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like leukemia.

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This is a rare disorder,
and there are less

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than 150 cases
that have yet to be present,

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reported under the new classification
with the World Health Organization.

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And clinically,
we would expect to see more hematoma

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polynomially in the case of leukemias,
which this patient did not have yet.

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With a severe infection,
we would expect to see perhaps doli

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bodies, vacuole, some toxic granulation,
which we did not see.

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Now, additional tests
certainly are going to be necessary

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to help to confirm the diagnosis.

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And in this case, because of the clinical
presentation with the abdominal cramping,

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the diarrhea, stool cultures
were performed.

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And interestingly enough, okay,

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this patient turned out
to have Clostridium difficile infection.

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And it was a fulminant Life-Threatening
colitis that she developed.

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She actually, had an ileostomy performed

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and did survive,
but had a very fulminant infection.

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So this was a very unusual presentation
for a C diff

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in that
the white count was so high and was was,

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elevated
enough that a malignancy was considered.

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Now, a couple comments
about C diff, colitis

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and this occurs when there's disruption
of the normal bacteria flora in the colon.

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And the colonization of the C diff
releases toxins that caused mucosal damage

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and inflammation and result
in the severe diarrhea that can occur.

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Major risk factor is exposure.

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Prior exposure to antibiotics
such as cephalosporins and ampicillin.

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Some OXA cell
in the advanced age of patients

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is also a risk
factor, as is hospitalization.

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Now, in this particular case, this case
was based off of my mother in law,

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and she was not hospitalized
prior to this.

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But she did live in, assisted living.

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And that is has been reported to be.

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In fact, the centers for Disease Control
and Prevention have noted that 94% of C

00:15:38.445 --> 00:15:43.033
diff infections have been related
to medical care, with 25%

00:15:43.033 --> 00:15:48.997
among hospital patients, 75%
among nursing home patients and patients,

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or potentially also
that have been seen in doctor's offices.

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And so while I don't know, for sure,

00:15:55.921 --> 00:15:59.299
this is suspected that this is where
my mother in law developed that.

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But you can imagine my concern
when I saw the 80,000 white count.

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And so mixed relief,
I guess, when it was, a C diff.

00:16:08.934 --> 00:16:13.605
Now, just for comparison, here is someone
with a chronic myelogenous leukemia,

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and you can see here l can also see
from the side up about 1:00.

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And, I lost sight over,

00:16:22.280 --> 00:16:24.741
in the other over this way.

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So, just something to, compare.

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All right.

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Our next case.

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Case two, a 77 year old man
visits his family physician

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for evaluation of consistent weight loss

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fever, fatigue, and malaise.

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He appears pale and a physician.

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Notes marked spinal. Magli.

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Note the clinical symptoms

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that are significant.

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And here are the CBC results.

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Starting at the top and working down,
we can see that there is

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an elevated white count,
although not as extreme

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as what we just saw in the first case,
maybe a slight anemia for a male platelet

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counts a little bit on the lower side,
although not critical.

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We do have an increase in neutrophils.

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And somewhat of a left shift

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and then an increase in monocytes.

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Here is one image.

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The peripheral blood.

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And I would note this cell

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that almost looks hyper segmented
certainly has several lobes.

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And then we have some nice monocytes.

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This one

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some lobes as well.

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Here's another image showing immature

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neutrophils on the right.

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On my left side.

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Okay.

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So now we're going to think
about our second polling question.

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Case two polling question.

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What is the most probable diagnosis
of this patient's

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disorder myelodysplastic syndrome.

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Chronic mild Manistique leukemia.

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Chronic myelogenous leukemia.

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Benign monocyte ptosis.

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The answer to case two polling

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question is chronic Milo Manistique
leukemia

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okay.

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Some additional questions
that will be addressed okay.

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So it's important
to look at the morphology of the cells

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in this case the monocytes
but also the neutrophils.

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And that there certainly were
additional tests that were necessary

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to help
define define this particular condition.

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This was actually

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a case of a chronic Milo City leukemia.

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And when we talk about describing
morphology of cells again, I take you back

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to what I described in the first few
slides in regards to overall cell size,

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nuclear features,
and cytoplasmic characteristics.

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And I noted, on the one image that we saw,
the hyper segmented cells.

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So that was of particular note.

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Now the patient's clinical presentation
and laboratory findings do both suggest

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not only a mild dysplastic syndrome
because we have some evidence of that,

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but also mild proliferative neoplasm.

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The World Health Organization
classification of hematologic malignancies

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includes a group of disorders
that actually overlap

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both these conditions, and it is called
the Milo dysplastic syndrome.

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Slash Milo proliferative neoplasms

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and chronic Milo Manistique
leukemia falls in this category.

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This particular category

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patients with this category have effective
cellular proliferation, so we can see

00:19:54.951 --> 00:19:59.164
an increase in cell counts as we did
in this example the white cell count.

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But then they also have
some evidence of dysplasia.

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They also because of this

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dysplasia sometimes present with cytokines
in other cell lines.

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So I remind you that the white count
or excuse me,

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the platelet count was slightly normal
or slightly low.

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And the the agent age was slightly low.

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In this particular patient example,

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the laboratory findings
result in these conditions because we have

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abnormalities in the regulation,
the myeloid proliferation

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and survival of these cells.

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Now, not only is there
chronic Milo monosyllabic

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leukemia in this classification,
there's also atypical

00:20:38.536 --> 00:20:41.289
chronic, chronic myelogenous leukemia.

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That means there is a Philadelphia
chromosome negative.

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There is juvenile
monomials, city leukemia,

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and then unclassified
category of MDS, MMP.

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And now we can rule out the juvenile Mono

00:20:56.263 --> 00:20:58.932
City leukemia based on the patient's age.

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It's also unlikely
that there is a benign monocyte ptosis

00:21:02.185 --> 00:21:07.023
in this patient because of the slight
anemia, the decrease in the platelet count

00:21:07.274 --> 00:21:12.862
that are present and that we would also
see, not see the unusual morphology

00:21:13.029 --> 00:21:16.825
that we did see in some of the neutrophils
as with this hyper segmentation.

00:21:17.325 --> 00:21:19.035
So now we're down to distinguishing

00:21:19.035 --> 00:21:22.706
between
chronic myelogenous leukemia and the CML.

00:21:22.914 --> 00:21:25.709
And this is where additional tests
will become useful.

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So Philadelphia
chromosome will be positive

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at the BCR travel gene rearrangement.

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Of course if it's CML

00:21:33.883 --> 00:21:37.345
now we
can see some types of dysplasia in CML.

00:21:37.345 --> 00:21:42.058
But it's not near as prominent
as we might see in CML.

00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.979
What really defines
this is the 20% monocytes.

00:21:46.354 --> 00:21:49.899
And that is a criteria for

00:21:50.442 --> 00:21:55.572
when we look at the absolute count for CML
that would define this as a monocyte,

00:21:56.239 --> 00:21:59.242
a CML.

00:21:59.576 --> 00:22:03.413
Now when we look at evidences
of some dysplasia,

00:22:03.413 --> 00:22:06.791
a couple of things I want to point out
in this particular example.

00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:10.545
So if we look at this neutrophil
first of all we can see

00:22:11.212 --> 00:22:14.424
a very unusual nuclear shape
almost a ring.

00:22:14.424 --> 00:22:16.343
Although I think there is a division here.

00:22:16.343 --> 00:22:18.219
So this still is perhaps a band.

00:22:18.219 --> 00:22:22.223
But notice the hypo granularity
in this particular cell.

00:22:22.849 --> 00:22:26.227
Notice here in this neutrophil
it looks like

00:22:26.311 --> 00:22:28.605
I've stopped shy of calling it a delivery.

00:22:28.605 --> 00:22:29.731
I don't really think it is,

00:22:29.731 --> 00:22:32.692
but it looks like some kind of abnormal
granulation there.

00:22:32.692 --> 00:22:36.112
Now our neutrophils
are showing in some dysplasia

00:22:36.112 --> 00:22:40.408
which is finding commonly in CML.

00:22:40.658 --> 00:22:43.787
We have however the increase
in all the monocytes

00:22:43.953 --> 00:22:47.665
which do define this as a CML.

00:22:47.749 --> 00:22:48.833
So according to the World

00:22:48.833 --> 00:22:52.420
Health Organization we need a persistent
peripheral blood monocyte ptosis

00:22:52.712 --> 00:22:56.841
greater than 1.0 times ten to the nine
per liter to define this condition.

00:22:56.841 --> 00:23:01.513
Also notice this neutrophil on the left
also looks slightly hypo granular.

00:23:01.554 --> 00:23:04.682
So these granularity
the lack of granules in these cells

00:23:04.682 --> 00:23:06.726
are clear dysplastic features.

00:23:06.726 --> 00:23:09.187
Now the monocytes can also show
dysplasia too.

00:23:09.187 --> 00:23:12.649
I don't have an image that shows
that in this particular case.

00:23:12.649 --> 00:23:16.194
But we can see sometimes darker
cytoplasmic

00:23:16.194 --> 00:23:19.155
BSA philia
as one of the dysplastic changes.

00:23:19.406 --> 00:23:21.699
But this just emphasizes
how important it is

00:23:21.699 --> 00:23:24.411
to have a good peripheral blood
smear with a good stain.

00:23:24.411 --> 00:23:25.787
Good distribution of cells.

00:23:25.787 --> 00:23:27.622
When you're looking for dysplasia.

00:23:30.917 --> 00:23:31.126
Okay.

00:23:31.126 --> 00:23:34.129
Our next case case for

00:23:34.796 --> 00:23:37.757
our Caucasian male in his early 30s,
presented

00:23:37.757 --> 00:23:41.469
at the emergency room with a nosebleed
that could not be controlled.

00:23:42.095 --> 00:23:45.014
He reported that similar episodes
of Epistaxis

00:23:45.014 --> 00:23:47.058
occurred throughout his childhood.

00:23:47.058 --> 00:23:49.978
Once, when he was a toddler,
his parents panicked

00:23:49.978 --> 00:23:53.606
when mucosal bleeding became so severe
it could not be stopped.

00:23:54.190 --> 00:23:57.068
They took him to the hospital,
where he received

00:23:57.068 --> 00:24:00.071
a blood transfusion.

00:24:00.113 --> 00:24:02.907
He did not need any transfusions
in high school,

00:24:02.907 --> 00:24:05.910
but he was not permitted to play
any contact sports.

00:24:06.494 --> 00:24:09.289
His bleeding
episodes resumed after high school,

00:24:09.289 --> 00:24:12.167
and he has been transfusion
dependent ever since.

00:24:12.167 --> 00:24:15.170
The only platelets
are usually transfused now.

00:24:15.253 --> 00:24:17.839
In one year he received five transfusions

00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.842
to support an uncontrolled bleeding event.

00:24:21.050 --> 00:24:24.804
The family history is negative
and no other relatives are affected.

00:24:25.597 --> 00:24:29.642
So now I hope you're picking up on
the bleeding tendency here.

00:24:31.144 --> 00:24:34.147
And then his CBC.

00:24:34.981 --> 00:24:38.276
And again, if we start
at the top of the results and work our way

00:24:38.276 --> 00:24:42.238
down, I think you'll find something quite
significant when you get to platelets.

00:24:44.365 --> 00:24:47.327
The differential count was unremarkable

00:24:47.327 --> 00:24:50.330
as far as white blood cell count,

00:24:50.788 --> 00:24:53.666
so I did not list those.

00:24:53.666 --> 00:24:55.585
But if we look at the image,

00:24:55.585 --> 00:24:58.546
here's first image.

00:25:04.594 --> 00:25:07.597
Here's second image.

00:25:12.936 --> 00:25:13.186
Okay.

00:25:13.186 --> 00:25:16.189
So now we're ready for our next
polling question.

00:25:17.482 --> 00:25:20.109
Case for polling question.

00:25:20.109 --> 00:25:24.322
What are the abnormal findings
seen in the images of the peripheral blood

00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:28.243
thrombocytopenia and large platelets.

00:25:28.493 --> 00:25:31.496
Thrombocytopenia and normal platelets

00:25:31.579 --> 00:25:35.708
a ptosis and psychosis microsite.

00:25:35.708 --> 00:25:38.711
Ptosis and hypokalemia.

00:25:42.173 --> 00:25:42.715
The answer

00:25:42.715 --> 00:25:46.010
for the case for polling
question is thrombocytopenia.

00:25:46.636 --> 00:25:49.639
Large platelets.

00:25:50.598 --> 00:25:54.852
This is a case of something
that was very rare.

00:25:55.353 --> 00:25:57.981
And of course, the what we're seeing here

00:25:57.981 --> 00:26:02.151
are the enlarged platelets
that help really define this condition.

00:26:03.736 --> 00:26:04.070
I was

00:26:04.070 --> 00:26:08.241
pretty excited, actually,
when a program graduate

00:26:08.241 --> 00:26:11.786
contacted me that she had married
a man with this condition.

00:26:12.412 --> 00:26:17.333
I thought it was pretty cool to be able
to include this in presentations.

00:26:17.709 --> 00:26:20.712
This is a rare autosomal
recessive disorder,

00:26:21.004 --> 00:26:25.383
and by rare I mean less than or about 1
in 1,000,000 individuals.

00:26:25.383 --> 00:26:28.386
And it's called Bernard Sawyer syndrome.

00:26:28.428 --> 00:26:32.890
And this condition is characterized
by the abnormal,

00:26:33.683 --> 00:26:36.644
an abnormal glycoprotein in the platelets,
or even sometimes

00:26:36.644 --> 00:26:40.398
the absence of a glycoprotein
is called platelet glycoprotein

00:26:40.398 --> 00:26:43.401
one b, glycoprotein one b.

00:26:43.401 --> 00:26:47.280
It facilitates the binding of platelets
with von Willebrand factor

00:26:47.572 --> 00:26:51.534
and allows the platelets to adhere
to exposed sub endothelial tissue.

00:26:51.743 --> 00:26:54.954
When a vessel was breached,
our platelet aggregation

00:26:55.705 --> 00:26:59.083
is an important test
that's going to define this condition.

00:26:59.459 --> 00:27:01.794
There's abnormal response
to risk to Seton,

00:27:01.794 --> 00:27:05.214
and that abnormal response in platelet
aggregation is not corrected.

00:27:05.423 --> 00:27:09.260
When we add either risk to Seton or von
Willebrand factor

00:27:09.594 --> 00:27:13.389
aggregation with other agonists
like ATP, collagen are going to be normal

00:27:14.057 --> 00:27:19.020
because the platelet membrane
is attached to the platelet cytoskeleton

00:27:19.228 --> 00:27:23.316
using or via glycoprotein
one B, there can be loss of normal

00:27:23.316 --> 00:27:26.694
membrane cytoskeletal function,
and that's what accounts

00:27:26.694 --> 00:27:29.697
for the abnormal platelet morphology.

00:27:29.739 --> 00:27:32.492
In Bernards, CVA patients,

00:27:32.492 --> 00:27:36.496
around 60 to 80% of the platelets
are going to be increased in size.

00:27:36.496 --> 00:27:39.082
So we'll see an mikveh that is elevated.

00:27:39.082 --> 00:27:41.459
Now the condition arises.

00:27:41.459 --> 00:27:46.172
As I said, it's an autism recessive,
which means that the person the patient

00:27:46.172 --> 00:27:51.427
has to inherit one gene from each parent
in order to be symptomatic.

00:27:51.427 --> 00:27:53.971
So heterozygotes
are going to be asymptomatic.

00:27:53.971 --> 00:27:57.058
Homozygote are going to have lifelong
bleeding tendencies

00:27:57.350 --> 00:27:59.727
that actually begin in infancy.

00:27:59.727 --> 00:28:02.897
Now, this can occur
as a spontaneous gene mutation.

00:28:03.147 --> 00:28:05.692
And of course, that's
not very common as well.

00:28:06.901 --> 00:28:08.736
So another image,

00:28:08.736 --> 00:28:11.989
I would think that in this case
this is a platelet

00:28:11.989 --> 00:28:15.743
over here is certainly pretty close
to being giant as well.

00:28:15.743 --> 00:28:17.203
So and if we compare

00:28:17.203 --> 00:28:20.707
to the red cells that are adjacent to it
now we do see some normal platelets.

00:28:20.957 --> 00:28:23.334
I think over here
we have more enlarged platelets.

00:28:23.334 --> 00:28:24.961
So certainly there are large platelets.

00:28:24.961 --> 00:28:29.048
But what is clinically significant
are seeing the thrombocytopenia

00:28:29.841 --> 00:28:32.385
along with the enlarged platelets.

00:28:32.385 --> 00:28:35.388
And so the presentation in this case

00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:39.475
with the peripheral blood
smear shows evidence of Bernhard CVA.

00:28:39.475 --> 00:28:40.393
And then of course

00:28:40.393 --> 00:28:44.480
clinically with the lifelong bleeding
that this patient has experienced.

00:28:45.064 --> 00:28:47.233
So I was thankful to our graduate.

00:28:47.233 --> 00:28:49.277
She was, her poor husband.

00:28:49.277 --> 00:28:52.905
He was very, very good about this
and came in and let me draw his blood and,

00:28:53.573 --> 00:28:55.158
I'm asking a bunch of questions.

00:28:57.076 --> 00:28:57.285
Okay.

00:28:57.285 --> 00:28:59.537
Let's move on to our next case.

00:28:59.537 --> 00:29:01.122
Case seven.

00:29:01.122 --> 00:29:04.834
An eight year old African-American girl
was brought to her physician

00:29:05.001 --> 00:29:08.004
for evaluation of right
upper quadrant pain.

00:29:08.504 --> 00:29:11.507
She has a lifelong history
of hemolytic anemia.

00:29:11.966 --> 00:29:14.510
So I think, significantly here

00:29:14.510 --> 00:29:18.347
we have a child that already has described

00:29:18.347 --> 00:29:21.350
as a lifelong history of anemia,

00:29:21.976 --> 00:29:24.979
and her results.

00:29:26.147 --> 00:29:27.648
And if we start at the top

00:29:27.648 --> 00:29:31.194
and work our way down and results,
we can see that

00:29:31.736 --> 00:29:34.697
she does have some anemia.

00:29:35.031 --> 00:29:38.034
And I will draw your attention
to the indices

00:29:38.326 --> 00:29:41.329
in this case with a low MCV, low

00:29:41.454 --> 00:29:44.457
and slightly elevated mixie.

00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:48.753
And if we look at peripheral blood.

00:29:50.797 --> 00:29:53.800
I hope you're saying wow.

00:29:54.217 --> 00:29:57.220
Or thinking wow.

00:29:59.806 --> 00:30:02.809
And another image.

00:30:04.101 --> 00:30:07.396
And of course I didn't capture any white
blood cells, but they were normal.

00:30:07.563 --> 00:30:11.526
And we're certainly focusing in
on all of this red cell morphology.

00:30:14.403 --> 00:30:14.570
Okay.

00:30:14.570 --> 00:30:18.449
So now we're ready for our next
polling question.

00:30:19.325 --> 00:30:21.744
K7 polling question.

00:30:21.744 --> 00:30:23.913
Which of the following is the most likely

00:30:23.913 --> 00:30:26.916
explanation of this child's condition?

00:30:27.291 --> 00:30:29.752
Hereditary Spiro psychosis.

00:30:29.752 --> 00:30:32.213
Hemolytic uremic syndrome.

00:30:32.213 --> 00:30:34.924
Hereditary and lepto psychosis.

00:30:34.924 --> 00:30:37.927
Hereditary pyro piccolo psychosis.

00:30:40.805 --> 00:30:42.473
The answer to the k seven

00:30:42.473 --> 00:30:46.894
polling question is hereditary
pyro piccolo psychosis.

00:30:48.104 --> 00:30:52.817
And as you can see on the image put up,
there is clearly some evidence

00:30:52.817 --> 00:30:56.279
of sphere sites that are present,
as well as fragmented cells.

00:30:56.487 --> 00:31:00.825
That would lead one to think that
we might have a hemolytic uremic syndrome.

00:31:01.075 --> 00:31:02.451
Here is,

00:31:02.451 --> 00:31:05.454
a sphere of sight,
maybe a little tail here.

00:31:05.496 --> 00:31:08.499
And we certainly see some evidence
of fragmentation.

00:31:09.709 --> 00:31:13.546
And the sites in particular
tend to be more, triangular.

00:31:13.546 --> 00:31:15.047
So one over here, the. Right.

00:31:15.047 --> 00:31:18.801
So there are also some elliptic
sites that are present.

00:31:22.054 --> 00:31:23.890
But this is actually

00:31:23.890 --> 00:31:28.519
an example of a hereditary
pyro point glow psychosis.

00:31:28.936 --> 00:31:32.565
This striking red cell morphology
with the budding,

00:31:32.565 --> 00:31:33.774
the fragments, the sphere

00:31:33.774 --> 00:31:37.570
sites, the elliptic sites even some of
the cells that have little tails on them.

00:31:37.570 --> 00:31:39.739
If we look at the red
cell down here, notice

00:31:39.739 --> 00:31:42.950
this little tail out on this particular
red cell.

00:31:43.492 --> 00:31:48.247
So this is very classic presentation
for an HP.

00:31:48.497 --> 00:31:52.293
Now also could consider

00:31:52.293 --> 00:31:55.796
I did not put this as a choice
but a severe burn.

00:31:56.047 --> 00:32:00.259
Except there was nothing in the history
that led us to think there might be,

00:32:01.844 --> 00:32:03.512
an acquired condition.

00:32:03.512 --> 00:32:06.557
This was clearly something
that was inherited

00:32:07.099 --> 00:32:12.146
now hereditary sphere of psychosis,
particularly with a slightly elevated MCQ,

00:32:12.355 --> 00:32:16.275
could be considered, but
we don't see really enough sphere sites

00:32:16.525 --> 00:32:20.196
to consider that in the
in the event of all or in the face

00:32:20.196 --> 00:32:22.031
of all of the other morphology,

00:32:22.031 --> 00:32:25.534
the fragmentation in the elective situs
that is also present.

00:32:26.243 --> 00:32:30.873
The other thing about micro
and Pathak hemolytic anemia, like H2, was,

00:32:31.165 --> 00:32:34.543
disseminated intravascular coagulation,
thrombotic thrombocytopenia,

00:32:35.419 --> 00:32:39.298
you could also see, some platelets
that would be decreased.

00:32:39.298 --> 00:32:42.134
And we did not see that
in this particular example.

00:32:42.134 --> 00:32:46.973
And we would not see this striking
of the morphology in this case. Now

00:32:48.349 --> 00:32:49.642
to consider

00:32:49.642 --> 00:32:53.396
Spheeris or hereditary
lepto psychosis could be also possibility.

00:32:53.646 --> 00:32:56.524
And in actuality HPP is a variant.

00:32:56.524 --> 00:32:58.526
A subtype of electro situs is.

00:32:58.526 --> 00:33:02.113
It's a more severe cousin
to the lepto psychosis, but someone

00:33:02.113 --> 00:33:06.784
with a straight hereditary lepto psychosis
is not going to have this fragmentation.

00:33:07.576 --> 00:33:11.038
This fear cites
this mercy of of of of an appearance.

00:33:11.580 --> 00:33:14.083
HBP is a rare hemolytic anemia.

00:33:14.083 --> 00:33:17.503
Again, it is autosomal recessive
and as I mentioned, is closely

00:33:17.503 --> 00:33:21.173
related to hemolytic or hereditary
electro sight ptosis.

00:33:21.173 --> 00:33:23.926
It is seen in African-Americans.

00:33:23.926 --> 00:33:25.970
But it's been diagnosed also

00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:29.056
in Caucasians and other populations.

00:33:29.724 --> 00:33:34.979
The HPP cells actually have two defects,
one that's inherited from each parent.

00:33:34.979 --> 00:33:39.025
So one parent has, passes along a defect

00:33:39.025 --> 00:33:44.030
that allows spectrum to be,
abnormal in the membrane.

00:33:44.030 --> 00:33:48.367
And the other parent sends along, a defect
in how the spectrum

00:33:48.367 --> 00:33:51.787
is attaching to the cytoskeletal structure
of the membrane.

00:33:51.954 --> 00:33:55.624
And so these patients,
then their cells literally are torn apart,

00:33:56.292 --> 00:33:58.878
through shear stresses in the circulation.

00:34:00.921 --> 00:34:02.465
The similarities of these red

00:34:02.465 --> 00:34:08.512
cells in HPP to those, that looked like,
someone that has had a thermal injury

00:34:08.512 --> 00:34:14.060
or burn led investigators to examine
the thermal sensitivity of cells.

00:34:14.060 --> 00:34:17.646
And then indeed, they do have increased
sensitivity under heat.

00:34:17.688 --> 00:34:22.068
Normal red cells are going to fragment
around 49 to 50°C,

00:34:22.068 --> 00:34:26.739
whereas HPP cells will fragment around
45 to 46 degrees cells.

00:34:26.739 --> 00:34:30.868
So it's just an additional, information
that's noted.

00:34:31.786 --> 00:34:35.539
Mcvie's can be decreased
in the HPP patient

00:34:35.539 --> 00:34:38.834
because of the severe fragmentation
that occurs in these cells.

00:34:38.834 --> 00:34:40.878
So very interesting condition.

00:34:40.878 --> 00:34:44.048
This was a patient
that did come to University

00:34:44.423 --> 00:34:47.301
of Utah, Medical Center and,

00:34:47.301 --> 00:34:50.304
and was evaluated.

00:34:50.596 --> 00:34:50.805
Okay.

00:34:50.805 --> 00:34:53.307
Our next case,

00:34:53.307 --> 00:34:55.101
case eight,

00:34:55.101 --> 00:34:58.145
a 28 year old man suffers from persistent

00:34:58.145 --> 00:35:01.565
and chronic diarrhea
of approximately two months duration.

00:35:02.691 --> 00:35:03.067
He has

00:35:03.067 --> 00:35:06.320
also experienced abdominal cramps,
fatigue, and weight loss.

00:35:06.946 --> 00:35:10.157
He is a medical laboratory scientist
and performs a CBC

00:35:10.324 --> 00:35:13.327
as a first step
in the evaluation of his disorder.

00:35:14.787 --> 00:35:17.790
Here are his results.

00:35:18.457 --> 00:35:20.751
And one thing,

00:35:20.751 --> 00:35:23.587
of note as you look at the results,

00:35:23.587 --> 00:35:26.674
is that, his age looked pretty good,

00:35:27.842 --> 00:35:31.011
but he does look like
he has a micro stick.

00:35:31.554 --> 00:35:34.557
Perhaps hyper chromic anemia.

00:35:35.808 --> 00:35:38.644
Although H and H are not yet decreased.

00:35:38.644 --> 00:35:41.814
I will comment that
this condition develops in stages,

00:35:42.022 --> 00:35:45.025
so the indices may be decreased

00:35:45.442 --> 00:35:48.529
prior to the hemoglobin
a hematocrit decreasing.

00:35:48.863 --> 00:35:51.782
So if we look at,

00:35:51.782 --> 00:35:54.535
example, the peripheral blood smear

00:35:54.535 --> 00:35:58.080
and the lymphocyte
is there, our normal resting lymphocyte

00:35:59.832 --> 00:36:02.543
to help you compare size.

00:36:02.543 --> 00:36:07.131
And I will also note the
cell up here about 2:00 ish

00:36:08.632 --> 00:36:08.841
here.

00:36:08.841 --> 00:36:11.844
Here's
another image of the peripheral blood.

00:36:12.261 --> 00:36:14.930
Here's another slightly

00:36:14.930 --> 00:36:17.391
oval ish cell up there.

00:36:17.391 --> 00:36:19.768
Case eight pulling question

00:36:19.768 --> 00:36:23.272
what is the most probable diagnosis
of this man's disorder?

00:36:24.064 --> 00:36:25.941
Lead poisoning.

00:36:25.941 --> 00:36:28.277
Anemia of chronic disease.

00:36:28.277 --> 00:36:30.613
Iron deficiency anemia.

00:36:30.613 --> 00:36:33.616
Heterozygous beta thalassemia.

00:36:36.869 --> 00:36:39.705
The answer to the case
eight point question.

00:36:39.705 --> 00:36:43.584
Iron deficiency anemia and lead poisoning.

00:36:43.584 --> 00:36:46.545
We might expect to see some
basic healing stippling.

00:36:46.712 --> 00:36:53.469
We may not see the severity in the indices
that we associated with this case,

00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.973
and we also would not see the tendency
to have the elliptic sites.

00:36:57.973 --> 00:37:01.310
And in my smaller image here
you can see this small oval.

00:37:01.310 --> 00:37:03.562
Each cell that I'm circling okay.

00:37:03.562 --> 00:37:06.857
And we call these
in the face of micro hyper chromic

00:37:07.399 --> 00:37:09.526
presentation as pencil cells.

00:37:09.526 --> 00:37:13.322
And they are very you know why I stopped
short of saying they're diagnostic

00:37:13.322 --> 00:37:16.659
for iron deficiency anemia
in the context of a micro hypo picture.

00:37:16.659 --> 00:37:17.701
Look at this little guy here.

00:37:17.701 --> 00:37:21.205
Micro and not so hypo,
but certainly micro.

00:37:21.247 --> 00:37:22.998
We have to think about iron

00:37:23.958 --> 00:37:25.793
pencil cells and iron deficiency.

00:37:25.793 --> 00:37:28.712
So they're very
they help complete the picture.

00:37:28.712 --> 00:37:32.424
Anemia of chronic disease is a condition
that's associated with patients

00:37:32.424 --> 00:37:36.053
that have some long term
inflammation or infection.

00:37:36.053 --> 00:37:36.887
And we were given

00:37:36.887 --> 00:37:41.850
nothing in the clinical presentation
to make us think about, anemia.

00:37:41.850 --> 00:37:42.685
Chronic disease.

00:37:42.685 --> 00:37:46.105
Anemia of chronic disease
is the most common anemia

00:37:46.105 --> 00:37:49.066
that is associated
with hospitalized patients.

00:37:49.149 --> 00:37:53.487
It is related to an imbalance of a master
iron regulator called hip Sidon.

00:37:54.321 --> 00:37:57.116
That and the levels of hip
Sidon are altered

00:37:57.116 --> 00:38:00.619
when patients have these long term
infections and inflammatory conditions.

00:38:01.287 --> 00:38:02.746
And then heterozygous beta one.

00:38:02.746 --> 00:38:08.711
Now, we would expect
to see more target cell in this, picture.

00:38:08.711 --> 00:38:13.257
And also again, we were not, given
any kind of clinical history

00:38:13.257 --> 00:38:16.635
that would make us
think that, the patient had

00:38:18.053 --> 00:38:20.306
a beta thalassemia.

00:38:20.306 --> 00:38:24.893
This particular patient
was another graduate of our

00:38:24.893 --> 00:38:28.105
of our medical laboratory science program
here at the University of Utah.

00:38:28.397 --> 00:38:32.067
And contacted me,
after he knew what was going on.

00:38:32.067 --> 00:38:35.404
He actually has iron deficiency,
as we said.

00:38:35.404 --> 00:38:38.490
But when we're talking about iron
deficiency anemia in particular,

00:38:38.490 --> 00:38:41.952
it's always important to recognize
what is the underlying cause,

00:38:41.952 --> 00:38:46.874
what's etiology,
what what has resulted in this condition.

00:38:46.874 --> 00:38:50.961
So so Ida may be the diagnosis,
but what really is the underlying problem.

00:38:50.961 --> 00:38:55.257
And as it turns out he has celiac disease
and celiac disease.

00:38:55.257 --> 00:38:58.677
Of course people cannot tolerate gliadin

00:38:58.969 --> 00:39:01.972
which is part of our

00:39:02.222 --> 00:39:04.266
in a fraction of the gluten.

00:39:04.266 --> 00:39:09.521
And this results in an imbalance
or metabolic problems in the intestine.

00:39:09.772 --> 00:39:13.400
And that can transfer to,
not only iron deficiency,

00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.654
but sometimes patients have trouble,
absorbing folate.

00:39:17.654 --> 00:39:21.325
And B and B12 can also see megalo blast
process.

00:39:21.867 --> 00:39:25.996
Processes develop this particular patient
our graduate

00:39:25.996 --> 00:39:30.000
as I said, developed iron deficiency
as a result of his celiac disease.

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.129
So it's something, disorders
to certainly be aware of.

00:39:34.129 --> 00:39:38.550
And from the standpoint of the hematologic
findings that are also possible.

00:39:40.386 --> 00:39:43.389
And we have one more case to

00:39:44.098 --> 00:39:47.101
present today.

00:39:47.351 --> 00:39:49.186
Cas9,

00:39:49.186 --> 00:39:52.481
a 33 year
old female from Guyana, has experienced

00:39:52.481 --> 00:39:55.484
chronic, low level bone and joint pain
all her life.

00:39:56.151 --> 00:40:00.781
At times, she is also so tired and weak
she cannot get out of bed in the morning.

00:40:01.490 --> 00:40:04.743
These episodes of extreme
weakness can last for several days.

00:40:05.536 --> 00:40:09.206
She visits her physician
for a routine evaluation of her condition

00:40:10.541 --> 00:40:13.544
and then her CBC results.

00:40:16.046 --> 00:40:18.048
Again, we can see that,

00:40:18.048 --> 00:40:21.051
the white count is a little elevated.

00:40:21.885 --> 00:40:22.886
Rule of three.

00:40:22.886 --> 00:40:25.389
Pretty close, but she is anemic.

00:40:25.389 --> 00:40:27.891
But the anemia is normal
sitting normal chromic.

00:40:27.891 --> 00:40:30.894
As our indices are normal.

00:40:32.354 --> 00:40:35.357
And if you look at, peripheral blood.

00:40:37.109 --> 00:40:40.112
I hope many of you are saying

00:40:41.989 --> 00:40:45.033
We can note here
that we have some polychrome Asia,

00:40:45.576 --> 00:40:48.829
a little bit of targeting looks,
perhaps a whole jolly body.

00:40:50.456 --> 00:40:53.417
And of course, these cells

00:40:54.251 --> 00:40:57.796
seem to be frequent for you.

00:40:58.422 --> 00:41:00.299
And another

00:41:00.299 --> 00:41:04.344
showing more targeting,
and still some that are not quite

00:41:04.344 --> 00:41:07.306
as pronounced as what we just saw.

00:41:08.849 --> 00:41:11.852
So let's open up our next poll.

00:41:14.521 --> 00:41:16.899
Case nine polling question

00:41:16.899 --> 00:41:20.986
what is the most clinically significant
RBC abnormality present?

00:41:21.862 --> 00:41:23.572
Elective sites.

00:41:23.572 --> 00:41:24.907
Sickle cells.

00:41:24.907 --> 00:41:27.910
Polychrome Asia target cells.

00:41:29.453 --> 00:41:32.122
So in this case, again
I'm not asking for a diagnosis.

00:41:32.122 --> 00:41:35.125
I'm asking for what you think is

00:41:35.876 --> 00:41:38.253
out with some of those morphologic
findings.

00:41:38.253 --> 00:41:41.256
I pointed out
what's most clinically significant.

00:41:43.258 --> 00:41:44.468
The answer to the case nine

00:41:44.468 --> 00:41:47.471
polling question sickle cells.

00:41:47.846 --> 00:41:51.725
And while, the clipped asides
polychrome Asia target cells

00:41:51.725 --> 00:41:56.146
certainly were present, they are not
the most clinically significant finding.

00:41:56.355 --> 00:41:59.149
Whenever we see
at least one sickle cell event, it's

00:41:59.149 --> 00:42:02.402
going to indicate to us,
you know, the potential diagnosis.

00:42:03.946 --> 00:42:04.488
Another

00:42:04.488 --> 00:42:08.784
question to consider with
this particular case is the relationship

00:42:08.784 --> 00:42:10.869
between the abnormally shaped red cells

00:42:10.869 --> 00:42:13.872
or with recites
and the patient's clinical symptoms.

00:42:13.872 --> 00:42:17.167
Because the sickle cells
are abnormally shaped,

00:42:17.376 --> 00:42:20.379
they actually do
get stuck in small vessels.

00:42:20.796 --> 00:42:24.633
And this can cause debilitating pain
for patients,

00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.555
as these cells do not allow oxygen
to nourish subsequent tissues.

00:42:30.556 --> 00:42:33.559
This is from a different patient,
but I want to point out

00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:37.396
a few features of the sickle cells
and this condition.

00:42:37.396 --> 00:42:41.275
So yes, we can see inclusions alcohol,
jolly bodies

00:42:41.275 --> 00:42:44.444
here, some poorly cremation
this particular patient some targeting.

00:42:44.736 --> 00:42:49.866
But these morphologic features
can be seen in other conditions as well

00:42:49.992 --> 00:42:53.996
and have to be put together with clinical
findings and other laboratory results

00:42:54.204 --> 00:42:56.331
if and when we see sickle cells.

00:42:56.331 --> 00:42:58.166
Okay, with a classically pointed.

00:42:58.166 --> 00:43:00.168
And that is very significant.

00:43:00.168 --> 00:43:01.962
Here's a nice one over here.

00:43:01.962 --> 00:43:06.300
Now the sickle cells I want to point out
will only be seen

00:43:06.592 --> 00:43:10.137
okay when there is 60 over 60% actually

00:43:10.137 --> 00:43:14.016
hemoglobin
S present in the patient's cells.

00:43:14.016 --> 00:43:17.436
So someone that has
a heterozygous condition of hemoglobin

00:43:17.436 --> 00:43:20.522
S will not have sickle cells present.

00:43:20.772 --> 00:43:23.275
I want to point out a couple things now.

00:43:23.275 --> 00:43:25.152
And you'd seen
these on the previous image.

00:43:25.152 --> 00:43:28.614
But sometimes we have cells
that are not exactly.

00:43:28.614 --> 00:43:30.282
And this is a good example over here.

00:43:30.282 --> 00:43:33.285
Although sickle cells tend
not to have any or central pallor.

00:43:33.577 --> 00:43:37.456
But the sickle cells
may be irreversibly sickle cells.

00:43:37.623 --> 00:43:42.002
When these sickle cells circulate
to an area where the oxygen tension is

00:43:42.002 --> 00:43:47.090
elevated, then they will go back
to the normal disk site, as in this case,

00:43:47.090 --> 00:43:50.719
when they circulate again
to where areas of oxygen tension are low.

00:43:50.886 --> 00:43:55.098
Then they sickle and the cells go back and
forth and back and forth, and eventually

00:43:55.307 --> 00:43:59.102
they kind of Peter out in their membrane
and they can no longer maintain

00:43:59.102 --> 00:44:03.106
their disk shape,
and they become irreversibly sickle cells.

00:44:03.231 --> 00:44:06.902
But when they're in between, sometimes
they don't look classically sickle.

00:44:07.027 --> 00:44:10.072
And so it's very important
to know about that and to recognize it,

00:44:10.364 --> 00:44:11.615
because this laboratory

00:44:11.615 --> 00:44:14.660
is making a diagnosis of sickle
cell can be very important.

00:44:15.410 --> 00:44:18.789
I also want to comment
about the elevated white count that we saw

00:44:18.789 --> 00:44:19.956
in this particular patient.

00:44:21.041 --> 00:44:21.625
There can

00:44:21.625 --> 00:44:25.504
be a shift from what we call
marginal leukocytes

00:44:25.504 --> 00:44:31.301
to the, circulating leukocytes
in cases of sickle cell.

00:44:31.301 --> 00:44:34.763
It's not completely understood why
these cells break loose from the margins

00:44:34.971 --> 00:44:38.850
of the vessels and circulate, but
that can account for some of the increases

00:44:38.850 --> 00:44:42.979
in the in white cells that we see
in someone with sickle cell anemia.

00:44:44.690 --> 00:44:47.067
So I want to conclude

00:44:47.067 --> 00:44:50.070
this afternoon session.

00:44:50.445 --> 00:44:53.573
And I'd like you to
we're not I'm not going to,

00:44:54.533 --> 00:44:57.869
ask you to, to state this at all,
but I just challenge you

00:44:57.869 --> 00:45:00.706
to think of one bit of information
or something

00:45:00.706 --> 00:45:04.334
that was new to you today,
or something that you had forgotten about

00:45:04.584 --> 00:45:07.546
and were reminded
about in today's presentation.

00:45:07.921 --> 00:45:10.882
Something that you can have
is your take home message.

00:45:10.882 --> 00:45:16.555
When you go back to your, your routine and
your regular jobs, later this afternoon.

00:45:16.763 --> 00:45:21.226
So someone, would ask you, what did you
learn today when you attended the webinar?

00:45:21.226 --> 00:45:23.895
I hope there's something
that you can readily,

00:45:24.980 --> 00:45:25.522
say.
